<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>Cool !! I'll check them out for new hardware. <br><br>Odd that the SUSE lizard logo (or Fedora for that matter) isn't at the top of their page amongst the others. <br><br>my $0.02<br><br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Lorin Ricker <Lorin@RickerNet.us><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> CLUE's mailing list <clue@cluedenver.org> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> David L.
Willson <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>; Max Haskvitz <Max@eRacks.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:41 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [clue] 17" Linux-based laptop<br> </font> </div> <br>Just for the record -- it's not hopeless out there -- I've had a great <br>business relationship with eRacks (www.eracks.com) out in Orange CA for <br>several years now. Good products, good people, great support, and 100% <br>Linux-focused (servers, desktops, laptops).<br><br>Just adding one more resource to the pool: I recommend them!... Choice <br>is good. Results count. Relationships are everything.<br><br>best regards,<br> -- Lorin<br><br>On 10/10/2012 10:16 AM, David L. Willson wrote:<br>> I have used SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop), and I liked it fine. I<br>> don't think it's backed by Novell any more,
though.<br>><br>> Do you know a reputable vendor that sells big, powerful laptops with<br>> SLED pre-installed?<br>><br>> And to your final point, I find brand loyalism much, MUCH less<br>> threatening in the land of Free (as in GPL) software, than in the land<br>> of free (as in beer and BSD) software or worst of all, in the land of<br>> proprietary software. I don't care if people are just crazy about Ubuntu<br>> or Red Hat or SUSE. I say God bless 'em and God speed. I do NOT feel the<br>> same way about people that are crazy about Windows, OSX, Oracle,<br>> Netezza, and MapR. I have one simple reason: I hate vendor lock-in, and<br>> I've learned to recognize cages and chains.<br>><br>> --<br>> David L. Willson<br>> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>> RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu<br>> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br>><br>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<br>><br>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> You should take a look at something that's backed by Novell and suse<br>> if you're serious about brand loyalty. Sled is prolly the only way<br>> forward with capitalism and Linux.<br>><br>> There's an excellent discussion here about the trials of universal<br>> compatibility and conversely brand loyalty. Thoughts?<br>><br>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012, David L. Willson wrote:<br>><br>> Hardware vendors and softwarethe vendors are in business to make<br>> great products AND make a living. So, when you're spending, be<br>> aware that they're watching.<br>><br>> Id no longer makes products for Linux, because a whole bunch
of<br>> people bought the Windows version of DOOM3 and downloaded the<br>> Linux binary for free, thereby obscuring their desire for a<br>> great game on Linux. Id can no longer justify the effort of<br>> creating the Linux port.<br>><br>> Fortunately, Valve is making their first foray into Linux-land,<br>> and hopefully, we'll have gotten smarter, enough to actually be<br>> careful about how our "dollar-votes" get registered.<br>><br>> So, I will continue to buy every Humble Bundle, attribute my<br>> purchase to Linux, and pay more than the average when I do. And<br>> I'll buy L4D2 on Steam on Linux, the day it gets
released.<br>><br>> And, I will only buy Linux-based computers from now on, rather<br>> than OSX or Windows-based, so that I can be sure all my hardware<br>> will "just work", and my vendor will know that I want Linux.<br>><br>> All that to say this... I want to source a Linux workstation<br>> from a reputable vendor, so I can request it at work: Why is<br>> this so damned hard?<br>><br>> System 76 - Bonobo - gone<br>> Zareason - Verix - gone<br>> Dell - M6700 - Rumor appears to be unfounded<br>><br>> --<br>> David L. Willson<br>> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>>
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