<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Well, there is a kickstarter for a new board that is claiming it will be fully open-source so all schematics are supposed to be available. I believe that should include the GPU which is the sticking point on many of the SBC cards out there for creating open drivers. Looks like the target price on that hardware though will be around $100-$150 for the final product if they can get it fully funded and get it on the market.<br><br><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/435742530/udoo-android-linux-arduino-in-a-tiny-single-board/posts">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/435742530/udoo-android-linux-arduino-in-a-tiny-single-board/posts</a><br><br>Now, the theory is that the RPi has "open source" graphics drivers supported by the vendor which was the sticking point for them earlier. I don't think it qualifies for fully open
hardware compliant because I got the impression the GPU hardware is still proprietary, but the drivers have been opened so that it can be more easily used for other OS.<br><br><a href="http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2219618/raspberry-pi-gpu-drivers-released-as-open-source">http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2219618/raspberry-pi-gpu-drivers-released-as-open-source</a><br><br>I know BeagleBone has done quite a bit of work with and is used in the Linux Foundation classes. I haven't gone looking for the drivers themselves, but it is possible they are integrated into the Linux kernel already so would be considered open drivers there. I found a document for the new BBB which claims "a truly open hardware and software development platform" so they take a risk there if the information isn't provided somewhere.<br><br><a
href="http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?literatureNumber=spry235&fileType=pdf">http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?literatureNumber=spry235&fileType=pdf</a><br><br><br>Those are about the best options I have found for trying to meet the Open source essence.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David L. Willson <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Alex samide <absamide@yahoo.com>; CLUE's mailing list <clue@cluedenver.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 31, 2013 2:57 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [clue]
Group buy for BeagleBoneBlack , RBPi and accessories<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1119641479"><style type="text/css">#yiv1119641479 p {margin:0;}</style><div><div style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">I thought there was also a quantifiable difference in free vs proprietary hardware content<span>. I thought the BBB was significantly free-er than the RPi, but also not entirely free. Is the Arduino still the model of free-ness, as far as SBC's go?<br><br><span></span>--<br>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu<br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br><br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span></span><br></span><br><hr id="yiv1119641479zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Looking at the table at http://roboteurs.com/beaglebone-black-vs-raspberry-pi/<br><br>The BeagleBone Black is the new version of the standard BeagleBone board. It has the same smaller form factor that fits into an Altoids can and supports all the currently existing Capes that are made to fit the predecessor. <br><br><ul><li>Faster processor on BBB (1Ghz Cortex-A8 vs ARM11 700Mhz)</li><li>It has 2GB of Flash built into the BBB due to development environment and to match up with previous BB products.</li><li>Only 1 USB on the BBB, but a USB hub is probably common for both.</li><li>Peripherals is where the BBB appears to have a sizable edge since it has the Capes that most BB boards support which the Pi is still limited on.</li></ul><br>Otherwise they are very similar boards. I suppose it would depend on what your intent
for use was as
to which would be a better selection. I would say the extra $10 for the BBB is probably worth it.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David L. Willson <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU><br> <b><b>To:</b></b> CLUE's mailing list <clue@cluedenver.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 31, 2013 1:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [clue] Group buy for BeagleBoneBlack , RBPi and accessories<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv1119641479y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1119641479"><style>#yiv1119641479 p {margin:0;}</style><div><div style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">Is the Beagle
Bone Black the one that has more freedom and is faster than the RPi but has a lesser graphics?<span> Or, is that another one?<br><br><span></span>--<br>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu<br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br><br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span></span><br></span><br><hr id="yiv1119641479zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">I am trying to save on shipping costs.<div><br></div><div>I am planning to buy 2 BBBs. ( $45 each )</div><div>Also a RBPi camera ( $25 )<br><div><br></div></div><div>Anyone interested ?</div><div>Where is best place to buy ?</div><div>Element 14</div><div>Ada Fruit</div><div>MCM ?</div><div><br></div><div>Other
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