<div dir="ltr">You can try using something that mate supports - <a href="http://mate-desktop.org/install/">http://mate-desktop.org/install/</a> YMMV on this. I've personally run into a ton of issues with it that have probably been addressed already - I just decided to jump on a tiling WM instead of finding a standard user interface that worked exactly like I wanted. My dad uses mate and swears by it, he helps admin a bunch of his friends systems and they all use Mate and no complaints from that camp. I think Linux Mint has a mate version out of the box, mate itself has a bunch of repo's for various distro's. Mate is about as close to hitting Gnome2 as you're going to get short of installing gentoo which comes with gnome2 out of the box last time I checked. Try Mate out, or Consort, cinnamon has a gnome 2 feel with some of the gnome 3 goodies. I for one am going to stick with my tiling WM cause I'm just bone headed and really can't be bothered to adjust my workflow one more time :)<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Yaverot <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Yaverot@computermail.net" target="_blank">Yaverot@computermail.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Even when you guys are telling me what I don't want to hear, I'm taking your advice seriously.<br>
<br>
Honestly, I thought they'd been hitting the "upgrade" button when it appeared; or that another relative was keeping a closer eye on the system. Or that something would've said "Hey you're about to fall off the 'can upgrade' cliff!" instead of leaving us in the position.<br>
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Since a full Ubuntu (9.04) and all their data is taking up only 4GB on their harddrive (according to df), I think the right solution is to get a Live-USB, that I set to use the home folder on the HD. This gets them a current/more_secure system, gets their new printer working, and buys more time until I can get there again and to a proper partition & reinstall of a distro I can better remote admin for them.<br>
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Or maybe that works well enough, that we don't switch; and we rotate USB keys like a backup set, and I update the keys when I get them.<br>
<br>
Is there a Gnome2 distro that be good for that, or will I be stuck trying to Gnome-ize something else?<br>
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--- Lorin@RickerNet.us wrote:<br>
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From: Lorin Ricker <Lorin@RickerNet.us><br>
To: CLUE's mailing list <<a href="mailto:clue@cluedenver.org">clue@cluedenver.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [clue] ubuntu upgrading<br>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 18:28:05 -0600<br>
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Yaverot: David is right -- Full and clean (re)install is likely your<br>
best option, so be sure that all user data (/home/...) is safely<br>
backed-up. Really, there's no good reason not to go all the way to<br>
current release, or at least to last LTS (12.04).<br>
<br>
I know, I know... Unity gets a bum rap, but I'm using latest/greatest<br>
Ubuntus ("plain/main" with Unity, Xubuntu, and Ubuntu Studio) without pain.<br>
<br>
If your user is bound to an old(er) Ubuntu desktop style and unwilling<br>
or unable to grok to something new like Unity (which is just fine for a<br>
casual, non-tweak-my-DT type user), then get him/her switched over to<br>
Xubuntu, or even consider one of the current Mint distros/DTs. But,<br>
IMHO, letting a user (esp. a non-technical one) languish with an old,<br>
unsupportable distro of any flavor, especially if the only excuse is<br>
"don't mess with my desktop", is just asking for trouble... eventually.<br>
<br>
If/when you re-install, be sure to do some careful HD repartitioning,<br>
and carve a big (biggest?) one out as the designated /home partition;<br>
this way, future upgrades can be a "clean and full reinstall" without<br>
re-initializing that /home partition. This doesn't absolve you (or the<br>
user) of making backups, but usually makes a clean install go a whole<br>
lot faster by skipping that backup-and-restore the user-tree step. Just<br>
a suggestion...<br>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br>
best regards,<br>
-- Lorin<br>
<br>
On 09/05/2013 03:45 PM, David L. Willson wrote:<br>
> I'd recommend 10.04, but I'm not sure an upgrade is viable, because<br>
> your repos are gone and so are the repos for your waypoint, 9.10. I<br>
> think you have to backup your data and do a clean install. Maybe<br>
> someone else will have better news. If not, you could try posing your<br>
> question to CoLoCo, too.<br>
><br>
> -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH<br>
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><br>
> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> Okay I got a friend who's using Ubuntu 9.04, and has just got a<br>
>> new printer, which requires a newer version of hplip than the one<br>
>> he has installed, and the repositories for this version are now<br>
>> gone.<br>
>><br>
>> Do you guys recommend a manual update to a newer hplip (many<br>
>> missing dependencies), or upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu?<br>
>> If upgrading U, which version means not having to re-teach the<br>
>> user, as screenshots of the newest version clearly show.<br>
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