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Someone leaving to better themselves, or move up, or out, or off, has become the normal method of advancement. 
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I don't think anyone stays with the same employer for 30 years any longer, so when I'm hiring, as long as I don't see someone jumping every year or two, I don't think much of it.  And when I'm looking - I find that being professional is more important than expecting a perfect environment from everyone else.  That being said, a friend of mine recently retired from Raytheon - and it's a place I'd work.
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On February 18, 2014 at 11:41 AM Quentin Hartman <qhartman@gmail.com> quoth :
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This was the same thing I was wondering
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Mark G. Harvey
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Mike,
<br />The real question for me is why are these two Linux heavy hitters departing Raytheon?  Better offers elsewhere?  Or is there something so unpleasant in their current positions that they don't want to deal with it any longer?  Management issues?  Change in technology direction?  
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<span style="font-family: Arial;"> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:04 AM, Mike Bean <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>> wrote :<br /> </span>
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</div> We're losing two of our senior guys where I work.  The reqs aren't on
<a target="_blank" href="http://jobs.raytheon.com/">jobs.raytheon.com</a> yet, but my boss is trying to make that happen, and she's thinking they'll go public in a few days.  She's told me it's fine to share with clue
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Caveat, these were some pretty big fish leaving our pond, so they'll expect applicants to have a substantial amount of experience.   Although I have no idea what it pays.  We're a mostly red-hat/VMware/AIX shop.  Although there's ALLOT of different kinds of topics around.   There's some travel, but it's not usually more then 2-3 times a year.
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Just to reiterate, the jobs aren't public yet; but if we have cluebies who are interested, I'd suggest watching
<a target="_blank" href="http://jobs.raytheon.com/">jobs.raytheon.com</a> for those req numbers probably no later then the end of the week.  For specific questions, I'd probably suggest emailing me so we don't spam the list.
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