<div dir="ltr">I think cmdb's is a good topic for Tuesday 12/08 presentation. What do you think Mike Bean? <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Quentin Hartman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qhartman@gmail.com" target="_blank">qhartman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">That was me, and yeah, I don't think cmdb's really have a place in the world anymore. With actual configuration management / deployment systems and (if you need it for compliance) intrusion detection, they are pretty outmoded.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>QH</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Mike Bean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">As a follow-up to this, I'm going to probably give this up. I did manage to successfully map one of our test networks in onecmdb, but from the look of things onecmdb has been dead as a FOSS project for years and isn't the simplest thing to work with if you're not a full time CM. Somebody somewhere in this mailing list said to me that in order for it to be worthwhile to introduce one new thing it should replace 2 old things, and I tend to sympathize with the sentiment.<div><br></div><div>Mike B</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Quentin Hartman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qhartman@gmail.com" target="_blank">qhartman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Getting money to oss projects is frequently a challenge in organizations that don't have a way to handle donations. I've successfully gotten it done in the past by presenting the cost of a legitimately comparable proprietary solution alongside the oss solution with a "consulting / customization" line item that represents somewhere between 10 and 50 percent of the cost of the proprietary one. With all the other lines being zero, it ends up being perceived as a bargain, and the cost falls into a category that accounting knows how to deal with.<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>QH</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM, David L. Willson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" target="_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">Please pardon my political opportunism, but I'm going to throw in a very short sermon here. Feel free to delete now if you've heard enough of my crap.<br><br>This is a reminder to all of us, me included. It is easy to become a leech and never notice a problem until your favorite project goes dormant because the folks working on it had to "get real jobs".<br><br>If free software gives you value, give something back. Words are good, and gifts are great. "Free" is a lot easier to do if the gifts come back, because folks that have something to give back, do. So, please give something to Wikipedia, the Free Software Foundation, the Linux Foundation, the Samba project, or whatever is of value to you. *Show* your gratitude with words and gifts you can afford.<br><br>And, encourage your friends and employers to do likewise.<span><br><br><div><span name="x"></span>--<br>David L. Willson<br>Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<br>RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu_CP SUSE_CLA<br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br><a href="http://sofree.us" target="_blank">http://sofree.us</a><br><br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr></span><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010ff;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div dir="ltr">Good thought, but I don't really have a project budget/money to spend on licenses, I don't think tripwire is FOSS is it?</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Quentin Hartman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qhartman@gmail.com" target="_blank">qhartman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So, at a previous gig, we were mandated to have a cmdb system and we tried to implement it with a wiki, and it worked pretty well. However, what I ended up doing for the systems I ran was use tripwire to log changes and use that as my "cmdb". When required, I copy-pasta'd entries from the tripwire log into the wiki.<div><br></div><div>In the end, everyone was happy, and I didn't have to deal with tracking stuff manually. Sounds like this might be a good fit for you.</div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Mike Bean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Not really a hardware thing that I have in mind. More a question of looking for a way to find a searchable list of system changes that you can say refine, so when something breaks. You can, for example, bring up a list of system changes that occurred within, oh say, the last week. I gather most of the CMDBs are pay-per software. Idoit, and onecmdb for example, are FOSS, but so far, problematic at best. Some of the options I've looked at run in windows, few to none run on linux. At least not well. Looking at itop, not convinced on that one either. Looks like I'd have to get a webserver going to have that running, but I don't see many ways around that. Everything I look at either runs on apache on tomcat. Most have some sort of mysql backend.<div><br></div><div>Mike B</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Matt James <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matuse@gmail.com" target="_blank">matuse@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I've used the Asset Tracker part of RT before and was reasonably happy with it. <a href="https://www.bestpractical.com/assets/" target="_blank">https://www.bestpractical.com/assets/</a><div><br></div><div>Is that what you're looking for?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Mike Bean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir="ltr">Has anyone had good experience with cmdb's they're comfortable recommending? I'm attempting to evaluate, and so far, just looked at onecmdb and idoit, but not generally having good experiences. I need linux support, and don't necessarily have an infinite amount of time to hack the thing into working.<div><br></div><div>Mike B</div></div>
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