<div dir="ltr">Ah, I see. I would recommend just mounting up that 1TB space via the fstab and then just installing your VDI on there. That means you won't be trying to gain raw access to the disk and It'll let you make more efficient use of the space available.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Levi Darrell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:levidarrell@gmail.com" target="_blank">levidarrell@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for the response.<br><br></div>The reason I am doing it--and let me know if I am making some wrong assumptions here--is that I only have 120 GB available on my SSD. When I installed Debian on /dev/sda, I didn't set up an LVM, so in order to access my 1 TB HDD (/dev/sdb) I have to manually mount /dev/sdb partitions in the Debian fs or set up fstab to mount them. I am assuming that when VBox dynamically allocates memory for the Windows system, it will only be able to write to /dev/sda, which will use up like half the drive. That's why I wanted to force the Windows install on to /dev/sdb4. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-03-07 15:01 GMT-07:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clue-request@cluedenver.org" target="_blank">clue-request@cluedenver.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send clue mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 20:01:41 +0000<br>
From: Charles Burton <<a href="mailto:charles.d.burton@gmail.com" target="_blank">charles.d.burton@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [clue] Using a dedicated partition for VBox install<br>
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I've seen this done in the past with VirtualBox but more generally with ESX<br>
or KVM. Can I ask why you're doing this? I know it may not seem relevant,<br>
but if it's for performance reasons you might find that the VDI is faster<br>
because it caches writes in memory before commit allowing you better and<br>
more consistent numbers.<br>
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Levi Darrell <<a href="mailto:levidarrell@gmail.com" target="_blank">levidarrell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Has anybody had any luck using VBox to install a second system to a<br>
> dedicated partition on the host system, rather than a dynamically allocated<br>
> virtual hard disk? The reason I want to do this is that my computer has two<br>
> drives, a 120 GB SSD to which I have my host Debian system installed, and a<br>
> 1 TB HDD. As much as I dislike it, I occasionally have to use Windoze. I<br>
> have Debian installed on the SSD because it is much faster that way.<br>
> However, I don't want Windoze to use any space on the SSD because space<br>
> there is limited. I could install Windoze directly to the HDD, but I don't<br>
> want to do this because I already have an LFS system installed to the first<br>
> partition of that drive, and Windoze will only install to the first<br>
> partition of a drive. I'd have to move things around in order to get that<br>
> to work. Secondly, I don't want to have to boot in and out of my Debian<br>
> system every time I need to use Windoze for something. I want to be able to<br>
> use Windoze through VBoxHeadless in a shell console, and then be able to<br>
> switch between shell consoles from Debian to Windows.<br>
><br>
> I installed VirtualBox version 5.0.16 from the VBox website, using the<br>
> .run file. I tried installing the .deb package first, but the installation<br>
> wouldn't complete because it wanted me to install packages that are no<br>
> longer in the repository. The .run installation completed successfully. I<br>
> successfully installed the extension pack. I was able to install both<br>
> Windows 10 and Windows 7 to a regular virtual hard disk on /dev/sda using<br>
> VBox. Everything is working fine. However, I can't get VBox to install the<br>
> machine to /dev/sdb4, which is where I want to install the system.<br>
><br>
> I tried using the features described in this documentation:<br>
> <a href="https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk</a>. I tried issuing the<br>
> 'VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename </path/to/file.vmdk><br>
> -rawdisk /dev/sdb -partitions 4' commands both with and without creating a<br>
> copy of the MBR and specifying the path to it (I don't think I should need<br>
> this, since I am doing a fresh install of Windoze). I have changed the<br>
> permissions to 660 for /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb4, and all of the directories that<br>
> would contain the VMDK file. I have changed the ownership of /dev/sdb and<br>
> /dev/sdb4, as well as all of the directories, to <myusername>. However, the<br>
> result of the command is sometimes 'Segmentation Fault' and sometimes<br>
> 'Invalid command: 'createrawvmdk'.' I am obviously issuing the command as<br>
> <myusername> and not root, which, as I understand it, is proper.<br>
><br>
> I've searched in various forums and they all indicate this should work,<br>
> but all of the comments I have seen are pretty old and by users that are<br>
> using versions of VBox 4.0 or older. Is this feature no longer present in<br>
> VBox, and if not, is there some other way to accomplish this?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Levi<br>
><br>
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Subject: Re: [clue] Using a dedicated partition for VBox install<br>
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Unplug the Debian drive, install windows directly to the other drive then<br>
plug back in the Debian and update grub to make windows bootable.<br>
At least that is how I did it on my laptop that has two drive only I had<br>
Linux on both.<br>
Hope this helps<br>
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Levi Darrell <<a href="mailto:levidarrell@gmail.com" target="_blank">levidarrell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Has anybody had any luck using VBox to install a second system to a<br>
> dedicated partition on the host system, rather than a dynamically allocated<br>
> virtual hard disk? The reason I want to do this is that my computer has two<br>
> drives, a 120 GB SSD to which I have my host Debian system installed, and a<br>
> 1 TB HDD. As much as I dislike it, I occasionally have to use Windoze. I<br>
> have Debian installed on the SSD because it is much faster that way.<br>
> However, I don't want Windoze to use any space on the SSD because space<br>
> there is limited. I could install Windoze directly to the HDD, but I don't<br>
> want to do this because I already have an LFS system installed to the first<br>
> partition of that drive, and Windoze will only install to the first<br>
> partition of a drive. I'd have to move things around in order to get that<br>
> to work. Secondly, I don't want to have to boot in and out of my Debian<br>
> system every time I need to use Windoze for something. I want to be able to<br>
> use Windoze through VBoxHeadless in a shell console, and then be able to<br>
> switch between shell consoles from Debian to Windows.<br>
><br>
> I installed VirtualBox version 5.0.16 from the VBox website, using the<br>
> .run file. I tried installing the .deb package first, but the installation<br>
> wouldn't complete because it wanted me to install packages that are no<br>
> longer in the repository. The .run installation completed successfully. I<br>
> successfully installed the extension pack. I was able to install both<br>
> Windows 10 and Windows 7 to a regular virtual hard disk on /dev/sda using<br>
> VBox. Everything is working fine. However, I can't get VBox to install the<br>
> machine to /dev/sdb4, which is where I want to install the system.<br>
><br>
> I tried using the features described in this documentation:<br>
> <a href="https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk</a>. I tried issuing the<br>
> 'VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename </path/to/file.vmdk><br>
> -rawdisk /dev/sdb -partitions 4' commands both with and without creating a<br>
> copy of the MBR and specifying the path to it (I don't think I should need<br>
> this, since I am doing a fresh install of Windoze). I have changed the<br>
> permissions to 660 for /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb4, and all of the directories that<br>
> would contain the VMDK file. I have changed the ownership of /dev/sdb and<br>
> /dev/sdb4, as well as all of the directories, to <myusername>. However, the<br>
> result of the command is sometimes 'Segmentation Fault' and sometimes<br>
> 'Invalid command: 'createrawvmdk'.' I am obviously issuing the command as<br>
> <myusername> and not root, which, as I understand it, is proper.<br>
><br>
> I've searched in various forums and they all indicate this should work,<br>
> but all of the comments I have seen are pretty old and by users that are<br>
> using versions of VBox 4.0 or older. Is this feature no longer present in<br>
> VBox, and if not, is there some other way to accomplish this?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Levi<br>
><br>
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I'll be there, at least to add thanks to Griz.<br>
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, David L. Anselmi <<a href="mailto:anselmi@anselmi.us" target="_blank">anselmi@anselmi.us</a>><br>
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> Hey all, don't forget this is our last meeting. (Shoot, I started to<br>
> update the web site but I<br>
> haven't finished yet.)<br>
><br>
> My week is imploding so I may not make it. But anyone who does, please<br>
> pass on our thanks to GRIZ<br>
> and his coworkers for hosting us so well for so long.<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
> Dave<br>
><br>
> Dennis J Perkins wrote:<br>
> > Does anyone want to talk about home automation at the meeting this<br>
> week? We<br>
> > don't seem to have a speaker and I'm starting to look into the subject.<br>
> Maybe<br>
> > someone has automated their home or has some ideas. I just ordered a<br>
> Razberry<br>
> > for my Raspberry Pi to let me talk to Z-Wave devices. I'm going to test<br>
> > Domoticz with it.<br>
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Ok. Just so it's clear to people, I'm not doing a presentation about home automation. That would be nice, but I'm just getting started. I'm still puzzling things out and maybe others have some experience with this and can offer suggestions, or they are just curious and want to learn a bit about it.<br>
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I'll be there, at least to add thanks to Griz.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, David L. Anselmi < <a href="mailto:anselmi@anselmi.us" target="_blank">anselmi@anselmi.us</a> > wrote:<br>
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<br>
Hey all, don't forget this is our last meeting. (Shoot, I started to update the web site but I<br>
haven't finished yet.)<br>
<br>
My week is imploding so I may not make it. But anyone who does, please pass on our thanks to GRIZ<br>
and his coworkers for hosting us so well for so long.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
Dennis J Perkins wrote:<br>
> Does anyone want to talk about home automation at the meeting this week? We<br>
> don't seem to have a speaker and I'm starting to look into the subject. Maybe<br>
> someone has automated their home or has some ideas. I just ordered a Razberry<br>
> for my Raspberry Pi to let me talk to Z-Wave devices. I'm going to test<br>
> Domoticz with it.<br>
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