[CLUE-Adm] Installfest Pic's

[Dave Anselmi]

I've updated the web site with Philipp's pictures.  Could you all take a look at
them and tell me who the people are?  I've put ?? in the captions for those I
don't know.  You're welcome to suggest better captions, too.

Dave




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Kevin Cullis wrote:

>Basically, ask the audience to act like adults!! I don't mind the
>occasional quip or joke, but I shudder when it gets personal
>
I've seldom heard comments in the room that were personal or childish. 
 But I'm
thinking that even the occasional quip of joke encourages an informal 
attitude
which may be disruptive and disrespectful of the speaker.  I've 
personally enjoyed
the casualness of our meetings.  But the points that Dave brought up make me
reconsider.  I'm now inclined to think that when speakers are trying to 
talk we
should enforce a more formal audience interaction.   Although it's been 
easier
the past year or two to get speakers, the majority of our group is 
uncomfortable
talking in front of an audience .  If we can foster a kinder/gentler 
audience, the
willingness of members to do group presentations may improve.


>We can escalate how we handle it in a number of ways, such
>as:
>
>1. Ask to offender to act like an adult
>
I personally don't like the phrase "act like an adult" (even when I think it
may be appropriate to use) because too many times I've thought the person
saying it wasn't acting like an adult themselves.  

>2. If they continue, ask them to leave
>
That's certainly escalating it.  Hopefully that won't be necessary.  

>3. If they still continue, ban them from coming back.
>
As long as we meet in a public facility I'm not sure we can do this.
But if we shun someone, they'll probably quit coming.

>The key issue is when things get personal and attacking a person. 
>That's doesn't mean the we have to be politically correct, but when an
>attack is specifically against someone that's when we should act.  The
>levels of correction are:
>
>1. Gently remind the person
>2. Admonish the person
>3. Reprove the person
>4. Rebuke or reprimand the person
>5. Remove the person
>
Sounds good.

>Vulgar language should not be allowed,
>
Agreed.  But I haven't noticed this to be a problem, have you?

>But the personal attacks like David suggested should be
>limited.  
>
Definitely

>We should also ask the group to help police the members so
>that it doesn't fall on only one person's shoulders.
>
Good idea.

>We should outline what we expect on our web site and state HOW one
>should disagree by prefacing their comments with certain terms so that
>we can help them correctly express their disagreements without getting
>hostile.
>
Yeah.  I think Jeff's already done that.

I think asking the audience to raise their hand if they have a question 
or comment
and wait until the speaker calls on them would be reasonable.  The 
speaker could
then decide whether to allow the question or ask that everyone hold 
their comments
until the end of the talk.  

Lynn