[CLUE-Admin] Fw: Item for website news section (Sat Aug 2 2003 09:17 pm)

[Gus S. Calabrese]

This sounds okay to me ......
"Some CLUE members, working with the Nazi Party are
planning to use Linux to track the movements of Jews....
CLUE provides this information as a public service and
has no official affiliation with the above activity and does not
offer any endorsement, pro or con for this activity.




On Sunday, Aug 3, 2003, at 14:26 America/Denver, Jed S. Baer wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 12:33:43 -0600
> Lynn Danielson <lynnd at techangle.com> wrote:
>
>> Jed S. Baer wrote:
>>
>>> Well, folks. Whaddaya think?
>>>
>>
>> As long as Matt, Alex, Charlie and the rest are prepared to handle all
>> of the
>> logistics associated with this "partnership", then I'm ok with
>> supporting them
>> with a blurb on our web page.
>>
>>> I can't say I'm particularly fond of the "partnership" language.
>>
>> Can you suggest an alternative?  I guess I don't know what the
>> partnership entails other than Charlie's assciation with the Sierra
>> Club.  Would saying CLUE members or CLUE volunteers in association or
>> conjunction with Sierra Club volunteers be preferrable to you.  What 
>> in
>> particular makes you uncomfortable with the partnership language?
>
> Well, Charlie included alternate language.
>
> I'm unhappy about any implied endorsement. I don't think CLUE should 
> be in
> the business of taking any positions, even by implication of 
> association,
> with anything outside the world of Linux. Our membership is diverse.
>
> Just for the sake of illustrating the point, here's some possible
> language:
>
> "CLUE, in partnership with the NRA ..."
>
> "CLUE, in parthership with Handgun Control, Inc. ..."
>
> "CLUE, in partnership with Planned Parenthood ..."
>
> "CLUE, in partnership with the Catholic Church ..."
>
> So, there are two questions. Is CLUE willing to be an "official" 
> sponsor?
> I dunno. Depends on what "official" means, and it doesn't appear to me
> that we have much in the way of history to go on here.
>
> I have no objection to putting useful info on the website, in fact, I
> encourage it. How to do so without implying endorsement of or 
> association
> with other groups? I'm afraid my brain hasn't gotten a handle on that 
> yet.
> Charlie's alternate language "Some CLUE members, working with the 
> Sierra
> Club Foundation, are ..." sounds pretty benign, until we substitue some
> quite repugnant group for the Sierra Club. And, of course then, the
> question is, repugnant to whom?
>
> jed
>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:17:46 -0600
>>> From: Charlie Oriez <charlie.oriez at rmc.sierraclub.org>
>>>
>>> Some CLUE members (Alex Young, Matt Gushee, a few others) are working
>>> with the Sierra Club to accept donations of used computers, install
>>> linux, and get them into Denver schools.  Depending on whether or not
>>> CLUE is willing to be an official sponsor or not, I'd like a version 
>>> of
>>> the following to appear on your site.
>>>
>>> (CLUE, in partnership with | Some CLUE members working with) the 
>>> Sierra
>>> Club Foundation (is | are) accepting donations of used computers,
>>> installing linux on them, and donating them to Denver area schools.
>>> This new program will be modeled after the StRUT program
>>> <http://strut.org> that has put 22,000 donated computers into Oregon
>>> schools and kept 1400 tons of hardware out of landfills.  To 
>>> volunteer
>>> for the program or donate large quantities of computers, contact
>>> charlie.oriez at rmc.sierraclub.org
>
>
> -- 
> .... it is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could 
> someday
> facilitate a police state. -- Bruce Schneier
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