[clue-admin] [Fwd: changing website]

[Greg Knaddison]

At the risk of drawing us further off track...

"Wiki vs. blog" is a false dichotomy. The site could have "Wiki + Blog
+ Events calendar."

As of Wordpress 3 (due this summer) even Wordpress will support this
concept of content types.</snark>

Cheers,
Greg

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, todd trichler <todd.trichler at oracle.com> wrote:
> Twiki is a perlbased one that I have used and quite like
> moinmoin is a python based one
>
> That said there are quite a few guys in the group that had experience with
> Mediawiki,
> I don't think the language it is written in is nearly important as the ease
> of use and functionality.
>
> I would be opposed to rolling our own - when there are so many off the shelf
> that would just work for our purposes.
>
> Wikis are better for allowing everybody in the group to contribute.
> Blogs are more onesided "I have something to say - hear me roar"  ;)
>
> ErikZ wrote:
>
> "DokuWiki" does not require a database. I use it mostly just as a
> "Pile of notes" for a site that has multiple admins, so I don't know
> how great it is compared to other wikis. I chose it simply to not have
> yet another database to keep track of.
>
> http://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki
>
> Blog software is great at communication, but lousy for keeping useful
> information. I would only recommend using a Blog if we were getting
> rid of the email list, and only then if we were not able to use forum
> software.
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Dennis J Perkins
> <dennisjperkins at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> This should have gone to everyone on the admin list, not just to
> Crawford.
>
>
>
>
> There doesn't seem to be enough interest among the members to decide
> which way to go.  They should be asked again before a decision is made.
>
> As to whether we should choose a wiki or a blog, I think it depends on
> what we want to do.  A wiki is good for organizing lots of information.
> A blog is better for someone posting his thoughts and getting comments.
> I think a wiki might be better for our needs, but maybe someones sees
> how to use a blog for a group.
>
> Mediawiki would work.  A Chicago Linux group uses it.  One speaker
> copied our website for his presentation.  Mediawiki offers multiple
> passwords and password levels.  It's not hard to use; just learn a very
> simple markup language.  It might be more than we need, but we can
> simply ignore what we don't need.  A few individuals voiced opposition
> to PHP, which is what Mediawiki is written in.  However, most wiki and
> blog software seems to be written in PHP.  Instiki is written in Ruby,
> but it only has two password levels:  a superuser password for Instiki,
> and one password for each wiki (Instiki calls them webs).
>
> If we use a blog, we could either use a hosting site or host it
> ourselves.
>
> Writing our own program is out of the question.  It could be fun but I
> doubt we could maintain the interest to pull it off and it would be
> custom.  I'm learning Ruby On Rails and it can be used to build a wiki
> (Instiki is a Rails app), and the underlying database structure for a
> wiki isn't complicated, but that final 20% is usually where 80% of the
> work is involved.
>
> Re presentations, if someone wants to provide files that people can
> download, I think either a wiki or a blog can be configured to allow
> that.  Or maybe some presentations could become part of a wiki?
>
> Either a wiki or a blog will require a database.  MySQL is the most
> common.  PHP is also needed; maybe we need a PHP module for Apache?  Or
> does it run standalone in this case?  I'm guessing our provider would
> let us do this but maybe I'm wrong.  The database and config files need
> to be backed up.  If the database gets large, would backups become a
> problem?
>
>
>
> Jed has mentioned requirements.  He said they are in the admin mailing
> list.  I don't know exactly where they are.
>
>
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