[clue-admin] Future Web Site

Dan Kulinski daniel at kulinski.net
Wed Feb 15 09:12:31 MST 2012


Alright, separating out by functionality is just fine.  But you all act as
if a VPS is a single point of failure.  This isn't completely true.  In a
sense, if the host machine fails your instance is down until it is
migrated.  The last time this happened my site was down for 5 minutes and
they called me to let me know what was happening before I knew about it.
The RAID is not local to the box, it is network based.

As for showing work, while I feel I have shown what I can do, this is
obviously not quite enough yet.

So I am not discounting any ideas here, I just want everyone to be on the
same page on redundancy for a VPS provider (a good one, not the $5 FSCK VPS
services out there).

I will be working on the Drupal site because everyone wants results,
including me.  Work has been done to get things setup, so the first step is
complete.  I have verbal promises that I will get the Drupal 7 work sent to
me and that will help accelerate this.  I invite anyone who would like to
also contribute to let me know so I can setup an account and I won't be
blocking your ability to work.

Dan Kulinski

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:00 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu>wrote:

> ...
> > > wait, they didn't support email (and I, for one, didn't want to
> > > lose the mailing list).  So people
> > > expected to build a Drupal site that would replace the current one,
> > > and save us money on hosting
> > > too.  But the email obstacle was a bridge too far.  And it wasn't
> > > bypassed, overcome, or let be--the
> > > project died.
> >
> > Then I would say the "drupal folks" need to work on resolving that
> > issue as part of the drupal solution.
> ...
>
> I think I disagree. I think web folks don't need to worry about email. If
> I haven't said so out loud already, I think separating email server from
> web server is a good idea, or at worst, a neutral idea.
>
> It seems to me that it could go something like this: a motivated web-dude
> puts up a new web-site, on a web-server with sufficient resources for his
> platform of choice. We love it. We re-point the A records and call it good.
> The MX record remains un-changed until someone changes it. Or have I
> misunderstood something this basic all these years?
>
> Then, someone raises the point that the web-site is on a single-spindle
> POS in someone's basement, and do we really want to do it that way, at
> which point, we copy the thing to RDR's mega-box, add another A record and
> call it better. The MX record continues to trundle along happily. Yes? No?
>
> Advantage of the -admin list: Being able to be blunt, or RDR-blunt, which
> is a whole different kind of blunt. :-)
> Disadvantage of the -admin list: Lurk-listen-and-learn much less likely
> here.
>
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