[CLUE-Cert] [lynnd@techangle.com: Re: CLUE certification group meeting]

Dennis J Perkins djperkins at americanisp.net
Thu Jun 27 20:34:08 MDT 2002


Jef Barnhart wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 10:49:50 -0600
>Lynn Danielson <lynnd at techangle.com> wrote:
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>>Lynn>>> We seem to be letting tangents take over the meetings more and more.
>>Lynn>>> Maybe that's ok, but then perhaps we should change the name of our
>>Lynn>>> group to simply be a CLUE study group and [drop] certification ...
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>>Jef>> I would be OK with the CLUE study group. This seems to be what it
>>Jef>> evolved into now that the future of linux certs are in question.
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>>David> All these suggestions all sound good:
>>David>        Renaming the group
>>David>        Focusing on specific topics
>>David>        Working on labs
>>David>        Deemphasizing certification(s)
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>>Sean> Sounds like Dave, Lynn and Jef are saying the same thing. I'm on board,
>>Sean> too.  I like the tangents. <snip> Maybe we can continue rambling on as 
>>Sean> we have and just using the books as loose guides for what to move onto.
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Sounds good to me.  I don't mind the tangents either.  Some of them have 
been quite interesting.  Besides, if something happens to interest us, 
we can focus on it instead of ignoring it because it doesn't fit 
certification.

>>Lynn>>> There are a few things I'd like to cover before we move on.  One is
>>Lynn>>> setting up a NIS master server (and possibly a slave).  Another is
>>Lynn>>> setting up a DNS server.
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>>Sean> I'd love to do the DNS/NIS stuff Lynn mentions below...do we want to skip
>>Sean> the labs, and move right to something like this? Or go through the shorter
>>Sean> labs, and then do one or both of these? 
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>>How about we look through the labs to see if anything else is of interest
>>to the group and skip the rest.  There's a lab on Apache.  I'm not sure
>>how appropriate an Apache lab is to networking, but it's a killer app for
>>sure and one that I would like to go into in some depth if the group is
>>interested.
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>>Since no one has commented on Samba, I'll assume interest in that is
>>minimal or that those who care about it are already familiar with it.
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>I think that a look into samba would be good. They have a lot of good features that I personaly have not explored and would like to.
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>>How about inetd?  Is everyone already comfortable configuring services
>>through inetd?
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>We may want to look at xinetd if we look at inetd. It seems to me that more distros are useing that.
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I'm interested in xinetd.  One of these days I want to add it to my LFS box.

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>>I personally know nothing about snmp (simple network management protocol).
>>I can't think of a better time to cover this topic.  Is anyone else
>>interested?
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>I "know" some of the basics of how it is suppost to work but none of "how" to make it work. It has a lot of good features for remote monitering.
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>>MTA's are another killer app.  We've looked a bit at smtp and sendmail 
>>configuration.  Is there any interest in covering this in more depth?
>>Possibly looking at another MTA like qmail?Lynn>>> I'd also like to discuss the networking commands that we (as a group)
>>Lynn>>> feel are essential.  The top ten or twenty perhaps?
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>>Sean> Here's a start:
>>Sean> 1. ping
>>Sean> 2. ifconfig
>>Sean> 3. nslookup
>>Sean> 4. nmap
>>Sean> 5. ssh group (ssh, scp, sftp)
>>Sean> 6. netstat
>>Sean> 7. traceroute
>>Sean> 8. ettercap >:)
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>>A good start.  I would categorize ettercap and ssh as app's rather than
>>command line utilities, but that's quibbling.
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>>Being a samba twit, I'd probably add nmblookup and smbclient to the list.
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>>Other suggestions?
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