[CLUE-Talk] JSP and browsers?

[Crawford Rainwater]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: clue-talk-admin at clue.denver.co.us
> [mailto:clue-talk-admin at clue.denver.co.us]On Behalf Of Matt Gushee
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:18 PM
> To: clue-talk at clue.denver.co.us
> Subject: Re: [CLUE-Talk] JSP and browsers?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:34:51PM -0600, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
> > An odd occurance happened today.  A vendor of
> > ours referred us to their web site for a potential
> > invoice from a recent expo (Boulder Chamber Of
> > Commerce one), and I noticed on the URL that the
> > site was JSP (I presume Java Server Pages?), yet
> > the site was only oriented for M$ Internet Explorer
> > 5.0 (noted on the bottom of the page)?!?  
> 
> I wouldn't say that's particularly odd, just moronic. JSP, after all, is
> a server side technology that you can use to output any combination of
> HTML, JavaScript, and CSS you want. And browser compatibility depends on
> what the browser receives, regardless of how it was produced. So
> apparently whoever created those JSP pages coded them in such a way that
> their output would work best (or perhaps work only) in Internet Exploder.
> 
> By the way, did your experience confirm that the site would only work
> with IE? I find that often those "IE-only" statements are not literally
> true--they seem to be more along the lines of "we only care about IE, so
> don't bug us about any problems you may have when using Netscape."
> 

I tried Netscape 4.76 and 6.2 on the site...nada, dead in the water.

> I don't think this has anything to do with .NET. .NET, as I understand
> it (and I don't think anybody fully understands it, because it's another
> one of Microsoft's amoeba-like marketing concepts) is not intended so
> much for developing human-readable web sites as for Web Services (web-
> based distributed application components). And since it appears that
> one of the reasons Microsoft created .NET was to destroy Java, most of 
> the Java community, and certainly the major Java vendors, are trying to 
> avoid supporting it.
> 

I believe it is a .NET production due to the .NET logo at the
top of the web page.  Though I could be wrong, and it could just
be a logo for the flare too.  However, the URL was a .jsp page.


> > Just a potential oversight for those
> > who thing M$ rules the web realm?  
> 
> Well, IE does have something like a 90% market share, and arguably
> delivers a much better user experience than Netscape. There are times
> when I wish there were a Linux version of it.
> 

Boo, hiss. ;-)

--- Crawford