[CLUE-Talk] Fourth Amendment? Anyone? <-- U.S. down theTubes !

[David Willson]

No offense meant, but can we be done with this topic now?  I don't share
this political stance, and it's very irritating to watch the
me-too-fest.  I don't want to cause further disruption of the list by
saying "not me" and then having to defend my position for several
messages.  Can we stick to promoting Linux, rather than liberal
politics?

On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 09:07, Richard Knechtel wrote:
> You can't trust ANYONE in our government right now.
> 
> Here is a hint for everyone. Remeber how so many people thought that "The 
> New World Order" concept was a "conspiricy theory"?  Well listen to the 
> radio talk shows, watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox News - whatever your flavor of news 
> and you will start seeing the term "New World Order" being used more and 
> more. Then take a look at the blatent breaches of our constitution being 
> made right now .. The Patriot act, allowing of carnivore, Majic Lantern, 
> Military Tribunrals, etc.. etc... Read the wording in the patriot act 
> concerning the definition of a terrorist... just saying things against the 
> government can get you labeled as a terrorist.
> 
> It is a scary time right now.  I fell sorry for what my kids will have to 
> go through.
> 
> 
> At 08:17 AM 1/4/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Richard,
> >
> >Well, and wouldn't you know it, our government gives out the info as if
> >THEY had it all along.  Having served in our military, our top positions
> >have become to PC for my tastes rather than getting at the facts, and I
> >think it's from BOTH sides of the political fence.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >Richard Knechtel wrote:
> > >
> > > Well,
> > > I hate to break the "Patriotism" going on. But I am sorry to say that our
> > > government LET September 11th happen. My proof.
> > >
> > > Long about October (soon after Sept 11). The Jeruselum post (www.jpost.com)
> > > had an article about how the Israeli Massad had sent a warning to our
> > > government back on the 20th of August - saying that they knew of at least
> > > 200 terrorists that had and were making their way into this country. And
> > > were plotting something to do with the airlines.  Not totally believing
> > > everything I read I talked to my cousin and here husband who live in
> > > Tel-Aviv Israel - her husband is in the Massad. I asked him about this. He
> > > told me that it was absolutley true! He also told me that the Massad was
> > > sending out lots of three man assasination teams to many countries in the
> > > middle east as well as the U.S.! Israel doesn't trust our government
> > > anymore.  How do you think within a couple days the governemnt had all the
> > > names and photographs of all the terrorists. That is because the Massad
> > > gave them that information! The Massad's inteligence network into terroist
> > > networks is second to none!
> > > Trust me when I say - September 11th was Pearl Harbor all over again.  To
> > > back up my claim about Pearl harbor I point you to a book called "Spy -
> > > Counter Spy" By Dusko Popov. He was a British agent during WWII that was
> > > the one that warned about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. He is also
> > > the real world spy that Ian Flemming modeled James Bond after. - Look up
> > > the book and read it - it is an interesting read.
> > >
> > > The Government is using the terrorist crap as a scare tactic to get the
> > > typical bubble gum brained American to agree with whatever breach of the
> > > constitution they want! Look at all that is happening - it should be enough
> > > to make you go "HMMMMMM!"
> > >
> > > At 01:28 PM 1/3/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Jeffery Cann writes:
> > > >
> > > >  > For my fellow civil libertarians - a U.S. District Court judge has
> > > > sided with
> > > >  > the FBI to allow keystroke logging _without_ a court order.
> > > >
> > > >  > It makes me wonder if the decision by the judge is influenced by the
> > > > current
> > > >  > terrorist paranoia in our great land.
> > > >
> > > >How cautious of you! As congress dishes up heaping platefuls of
> > > >corporate welfare, the Attorney General equates critics with
> > > >terrorists, and ordinary Americans get booted off of planes for carrying
> > > >the wrong books, all in the name of patriotism, you're wondering? I
> > > >wouldn't.
> > > >
> > > >P.S.: Maybe we should mark this thread "O.T." before the
> > > >all-Linux-all-the-time faction starts complaining ;-)
> > > >
> > > >Matt Gushee
> > > >Englewood, CO 80110
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