[CLUE-Talk] Fourth Amendment? Anyone? <-- U.S. down theTubes !

Fri Jan 4 14:44:24 MST 2002

Except that it isn't liberal politics. I hate all political parties alike.

Done then.

At 01:36 PM 1/4/02 -0700, you wrote:
>No offense meant, but can we be done with this topic now?  I don't share
>this political stance, and it's very irritating to watch the
>me-too-fest.  I don't want to cause further disruption of the list by
>saying "not me" and then having to defend my position for several
>messages.  Can we stick to promoting Linux, rather than liberal
>politics?
>
>On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 09:07, Richard Knechtel wrote:
> > You can't trust ANYONE in our government right now.
> >
> > Here is a hint for everyone. Remeber how so many people thought that "The
> > New World Order" concept was a "conspiricy theory"?  Well listen to the
> > radio talk shows, watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox News - whatever your flavor of 
> news
> > and you will start seeing the term "New World Order" being used more and
> > more. Then take a look at the blatent breaches of our constitution being
> > made right now .. The Patriot act, allowing of carnivore, Majic Lantern,
> > Military Tribunrals, etc.. etc... Read the wording in the patriot act
> > concerning the definition of a terrorist... just saying things against the
> > government can get you labeled as a terrorist.
> >
> > It is a scary time right now.  I fell sorry for what my kids will have to
> > go through.
> >
> >
> > At 08:17 AM 1/4/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Richard,
> > >
> > >Well, and wouldn't you know it, our government gives out the info as if
> > >THEY had it all along.  Having served in our military, our top positions
> > >have become to PC for my tastes rather than getting at the facts, and I
> > >think it's from BOTH sides of the political fence.
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
> > >Richard Knechtel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well,
> > > > I hate to break the "Patriotism" going on. But I am sorry to say 
> that our
> > > > government LET September 11th happen. My proof.
> > > >
> > > > Long about October (soon after Sept 11). The Jeruselum post 
> (www.jpost.com)
> > > > had an article about how the Israeli Massad had sent a warning to our
> > > > government back on the 20th of August - saying that they knew of at 
> least
> > > > 200 terrorists that had and were making their way into this 
> country. And
> > > > were plotting something to do with the airlines.  Not totally believing
> > > > everything I read I talked to my cousin and here husband who live in
> > > > Tel-Aviv Israel - her husband is in the Massad. I asked him about 
> this. He
> > > > told me that it was absolutley true! He also told me that the 
> Massad was
> > > > sending out lots of three man assasination teams to many countries 
> in the
> > > > middle east as well as the U.S.! Israel doesn't trust our government
> > > > anymore.  How do you think within a couple days the governemnt had 
> all the
> > > > names and photographs of all the terrorists. That is because the Massad
> > > > gave them that information! The Massad's inteligence network into 
> terroist
> > > > networks is second to none!
> > > > Trust me when I say - September 11th was Pearl Harbor all over 
> again.  To
> > > > back up my claim about Pearl harbor I point you to a book called "Spy -
> > > > Counter Spy" By Dusko Popov. He was a British agent during WWII 
> that was
> > > > the one that warned about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. He 
> is also
> > > > the real world spy that Ian Flemming modeled James Bond after. - 
> Look up
> > > > the book and read it - it is an interesting read.
> > > >
> > > > The Government is using the terrorist crap as a scare tactic to get the
> > > > typical bubble gum brained American to agree with whatever breach 
> of the
> > > > constitution they want! Look at all that is happening - it should 
> be enough
> > > > to make you go "HMMMMMM!"
> > > >
> > > > At 01:28 PM 1/3/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >Jeffery Cann writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >  > For my fellow civil libertarians - a U.S. District Court judge has
> > > > > sided with
> > > > >  > the FBI to allow keystroke logging _without_ a court order.
> > > > >
> > > > >  > It makes me wonder if the decision by the judge is influenced 
> by the
> > > > > current
> > > > >  > terrorist paranoia in our great land.
> > > > >
> > > > >How cautious of you! As congress dishes up heaping platefuls of
> > > > >corporate welfare, the Attorney General equates critics with
> > > > >terrorists, and ordinary Americans get booted off of planes for 
> carrying
> > > > >the wrong books, all in the name of patriotism, you're wondering? I
> > > > >wouldn't.
> > > > >
> > > > >P.S.: Maybe we should mark this thread "O.T." before the
> > > > >all-Linux-all-the-time faction starts complaining ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Matt Gushee
> > > > >Englewood, CO 80110
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