[CLUE-Talk] Fourth Amendment? Anyone? <-- U.S. down theTubes !

[Kevin Cullis]

Dave,

Just to let you know, I'm conservative as well and I subscribe to CLUE
Talk because CLUE people, no matter what their leanings, are still my
friends.  While you have every right to unsubscribe to the CLUE Talk,
those on the CLUE Talk list welcome disagreements from others as long as
it remains civil and adult.  If anyone on this list DOES want to silence
members, then I would consider them in line with the terrorist of 9/11
(NO, I don't consider anyone on CLUE Talk a terrorist). Only an open
society can foster competition amoung ideas.

OTOH, if you don't speak up, all we'll hear are "their" side of the
story.

HTH.

Kevin

David Willson wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the reminder, Jeff.  I will remain subscribed to
> CLUE-tech.
> 
> On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 17:06, Jeffery Cann wrote:
> > On Friday 04 January 2002 01:36 pm, you wrote:
> > > No offense meant, but can we be done with this topic now?  I don't share
> > > this political stance, and it's very irritating to watch the
> > > me-too-fest.  I don't want to cause further disruption of the list by
> > > saying "not me" and then having to defend my position for several
> > > messages.  Can we stick to promoting Linux, rather than liberal
> > > politics?
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > As the person who started this thread, I have to disagree.
> >
> > The CLUE-Talk page (http://clue.denver.co.us/mailman/listinfo/clue-talk)
> > states (and has not been changed since its inception):
> >
> > "The CLUE talk list is open to any discussions of a non-technical nature that
> > may be of interest to LUG members. This includes, but is not limited to,
> > Linux advocacy, political activism, news bites, job postings and hardware
> > sales or exchanges."
> >
> > So, to those folks who want the thread marked OT, I have to apologize, but my
> > post is certainly not OT, based on this description.
> >
> > Now, on to my reasons for posting it:
> >
> > The decision by the judge affects Linux and all folks who use computers
> > because our government is eroding our 4th amendment rights (to be secure in
> > our homes without undue searches and seizures), with respect to our specific
> > rights of the use of our personal computers.
> >
> > Liberal politics aside, my feeling is too many of us are asleep at the wheel
> > with respect to our civil liberties, in particular our constantly eroding
> > DIGITAL civil liberties.
> >
> > We have an obligation as members of a democracy to be informed of the
> > decisions which our elected leaders make on our behalf.  I am not happy with
> > this decision (although a judge is appointed, they are retained by election)
> > and wanted to share this unhappiness with those other activists who read
> > CLUE-Talk.
> >
> > The first recourse when we are unhappy with a decision is to learn the facts
> > and then discuss them with others to ascertain their thoughts.  Then we can
> > rely those thoughts to other elected officials in hope that our voices will
> > be heard.
> >
> > Promoting Linux is about promoting (and defending) freedom.  I understand if
> > you disagree with some of the posters comments.  Luckily, you are free to
> > ignore this thread or free to unsubscribe from clue-talk.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Jeff
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