[CLUE-Talk] Oh No! Not Again! (spam spam spam spam ...)

[David Willson]

So, Maureen from IBM one of the "thieving scum who are trying to steal a
communications medium and make it worthless..."

Huh.  <dumbfounded>

On Wed, 2003-04-16 at 05:13, Charles Oriez wrote:
> At 10:17 PM 4/15/2003 -0600, David Willson wrote:
> 
> >Just so you know, I have now gotten more spam-bitching than spam.  Is it
> >ever possible for the cure to be worse than the disease?
> 
> The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
> 
> 
> 
> >It took me one
> >second to delete IBM's email (which I couldn't have gotten from the
> >sign-up sheet, because I didn't sign it, IIRC),
> 
> However, by the time you deleted it, your ISP already paid for the cost of 
> the storage on the server, you took the time to download, etc.  If 1/10th 
> of 1% of every business in the world sent you one spam a month, you'd be 
> spending 1 second deleting each spam and never have time to do anything else.
> 
> 
> 
> >and it's taken me five
> >minutes or more to delete all the bitching, and try to figure out what
> >exactly the Big Deal was...  Maybe we could try not to ~quite~ so
> >sensitive about this...?
> 
> The big deal is that spammers are thieving scum who are trying to steal a 
> communications medium and make it worthless for useful two way 
> communications.  They steal resources.  They forge addresses to hide their 
> point of origination because they don't want to be shut down or deal with 
> the bounces, letting other ISPs deal with the bounces.  They route their 
> traffic through open relays and open proxies, tying up someone else's 
> resources instead of their own.  Most of them are criminals, trying to con 
> you out of money, ship porn to your children, and load your machine with 
> trojans, viruses, and expensive dialers, and engage in DOS attacks.
> 
> The problem is not being too sensitive - it isn't being sensitive 
> enough.  If every person reported every spam they received, and if every 
> honest ISP terminated their spammers on sight, and used the dnsbl's to 
> block the ISPs who weren't honest, the problem would go away.  I report all 
> spam, and my ISP uses fiveten and spamcop to block spam, among others.  I 
> then use procmail to block spam havens like verio, argentina, and brazil 
> that my ISP doesn't block.  However, every spam that doesn't get reported 
> before the spammer's point of origin makes it onto spamcop is one I have to 
> deal with.
> 
> Don't want to take the time to figure out the headers on your own?  Sign up 
> for a free reporting account at http://spamcop.net
> 
> With that, I'm down to about 3 or 4 spams per day on average.   
> 
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