[CLUE-Talk] Iraq Stuph

[David Willson]

Matt,
You ~really~ don't like Bush, do you?  Can I ask who you ~do~ like, and
why?  Clinton, Bush (Sr.), Reagan, Carter, Ford, or Nixon?  I assume
that whoever you put forward will be above reproach in the area of
'parceling out ... our rights to his political cronies', of course...

On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 22:17, Matt Gushee wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 09:37:28PM -0600, Jeffery Cann wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, I can't read the whole article...only the first page
> > 
> > I don't claim that WMD will not be found.  I hope for the sake of our 
> > government's credibility that they will be found in Iraq.  If so, then I 
> > think it will help some of us believe the Bush administration's claims.
> 
> Good God, Jeff, why do you want us to believe the Bush administration?
> So the SOB can get reelected and continue parceling out the remnants of
> our economy and our rights to his corporate cronies?
> 
> I suppose an argument could be made that having a credible US
> administration would improve our relations with other countries. But
> really, I don't think we can hope for much on that score. Europe will
> not quickly forget Bush's heavy-handed unilateralism (especially since
> it shows no signs of diminishing). Those who hate us in the Arab/Muslim
> world will not quickly forget that, nor our continuing strong support
> for Israel.
> 
> You've made me curious, though: do you sincerely believe that our
> government has ever had substantive evidence of banned weapons in Iraq?
> After all: Colin Powell goes to the UN displaying a bunch of Rohrschach
> photographs and praising Tony Blair's plagiarized dossier; the CIA puts
> out forged documents claiming to show that Iraq tried to buy Uranium
> from Niger; in starting our war, we cut off an active weapons inspection
> program, even though--as I think we agree--there was no imminent danger;
> and once in country, our agents visit site after site, each time
> declaring, "We've got something here! .... Well, maybe .... That is, uh,
> never mind!" Now I ask you: are those the actions of men with a bona
> fide case?
> 
> I've got to give you credit, too: every time I think I know where you're
> coming from, you floor me with something like this. Most list members in
> these debates are pretty predictable (including myself, I suppose). You
> help keep life interesting.
> 
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