[CLUE-Talk] Charlie Daniels comments, article about Saddam's sons.

[David Willson]

Jeff,

After reading the ~extremely~ lengthy A.I. memo, I see that our
President and his administration, are NOT ignoring A.I.  I see that the
worst they can be accused of is giving A.I. a 'legal runaround.'

And I think it is preposterous to group
detention-under-questionable-circumstances with the horrific torture
going on under the Hussein regime.  Let me ask you, "Which would you
rather endure: two weeks as Saddam Hussein's POW or two years as George
W. Bush's detained illegal immigrant?  Where do you think your body and
mind would be safer from permanent serious damage?  Which of the two is
going to allow you an opportunity to whine to AI about not having access
to your lawyer?  Do you suppose that if you were GWB's detained illegal
immigrant, you'd want to go home to Iraq?

I understand that keeping POW's without calling them POW's is
questionable, but we need to be clear on the difference between inhumane
and questionable.

On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 22:48, Jeffery Cann wrote:
> Speaking of inhumane / questionable treatment of people ... The selective 
> application of the Geneva convention by our government is sad.
> 
> The administration conveniently claims that prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are 
> not POWs - even though most were captured during the Afghanistan conflict.  
> This is an effort by our government to circumvent International law regarding 
> prisoners, humane treatment, access to legal representation, etc.
> 
> Yet, as soon as Iraq releases pictures of American POWs, the administration 
> knows every detail of the Geneva convention and the fact that pictures of 
> prisoners are not acceptable.  But, the administration DID THE SAME THING AS 
> IRAQ when they displayed pictures of prisoners.  Here's a link the to picture 
> that shows these prisoners:
> 
> +http://web.amnesty.org/web/wire.nsf/April2002print/guantanamo?OpenDocument
> 
> Here's AIs statement:
> 
> "Amnesty International's findings confirm many of the organization's earlier 
> concerns and suggest that a significant number of detainees continue to be 
> deprived of certain basic rights guaranteed under international law. These 
> include the right to humane treatment, as well as rights which are essential 
> to protection from arbitrary detention, such as the right of anyone deprived 
> of their liberty to be informed of the reasons for the detention; to be able 
> to challenge the lawfulness of the detention; to have prompt access to and 
> assistance from a lawyer; and to the presumption of innocence."
> 
> Here's Amnesty International's statement to the administration.  It has been 
> ignored by your President and his administration.
> 
> http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engAMR510442002?OpenDocument&of=COUNTRIES\USA?OpenDocument&of=COUNTRIES\USA
> 
> Jeff
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