[CLUE-Talk] Traitors, Cowards, Scoundrels, and Intelligent Dissenters

[Kevin Cullis]

Hear, hear, David, I couldn't agree more or said it any better.

Kevin


On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 21:18, David Willson wrote:
> K, this is twice now, that the lefties on this list have accused "most
> conservatives" of considering them 'traitors' or 'cowards' or
> 'traitorous cowards' or maybe 'cowardly traitors.'  I've had it.  Put up
> or shut up.  Who is 'most'?  Do you have some data that establishes that
> most conservatives aren't willing to listen to leftists prattle until
> the cows come home?  No, then knock off the, "You conservatives..."
> crap.
> 
> This conservative groups the anti-war crowd into four groups:
> 
> Traitors:  Those that attack the country or it's military.  'Hanoi Jane'
> is a perfect example, by way of her attacks directly on the morale of
> our fighting forces, and her war-time fraternization with the enemy. 
> 'Baghdad Sean' is not a Traitor, because he has never attacked his
> country, or debilitated it's military.  He made his trip.  He stated his
> feelings publicly, and he got out of the way when the shooting started. 
> Good man.  A lefty for sure, but a good man.
> 
> Cowards:  Let me start by saying that conscientious-objectors (Quakers,
> for instance) are not cowards, but they are ineffective military.  They
> are willing to die for the country, but not to kill for it.  If a man or
> woman has a son that wants to serve, and they let their fear overrule
> his sense of duty, they're cowards (and they're doing him an awful
> turn).  If a man comes to the conviction that his service is needed, but
> he lets his fear overrule his sense of duty, he is a coward.
> 
> Scoundrels:  Anyone that doesn't put the right-and-wrong of a thing
> before his own selfish motivations.
> 
> Intelligent Dissenters:  These folks support their country and the
> soldiers that fight on it's behalf, from grunts to the President, but
> they loudly, publicly, and intelligently criticize the country's leaders
> for their irresponsibility, carelessness, and failure to follow-through
> on commitments.  These people make our country great, by holding
> politicians' feet to the fire, and making them sweat.  Matt Gushee is a
> prime example, and no, I'm not just kissing his ass so he'll teach
> Fun-da-mentals again.
> 
> In conclusion: No, this conservative doesn't think all y'all anti-Bush
> anti-war left-leaning wackos are Traitors and/or Cowards, and I don't
> even think you should shut up, unless you ~are~ a Traitor, a Coward, or
> a Scoundrel.  If you're just a plain-old-ordinary idiot like me, I'll
> fight and die for your right to say whatever's on that tiny mind of
> yours, and I'll even listen sometimes, much as it pains me to do so.
> 
> :-P
> 
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Kevin Cullis <kevincu at orci.com>