[clue-talk] Re: Ubuntu - Not your Grandma's distro

[Nate Duehr]

Collins Richey wrote:

>On 11/16/05, Jeff Cann <jccann at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>On Tuesday 15 November 2005 8:20 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
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>>>On 11/15/05, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>And even bigger news: not one blessed reference to GNU/Linux in the
>>>entire article !!! <grin>
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>>What do you mean?
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>Others have answered more eloquently than I! All you have to do is
>peruse a few documents on the Debian website. If the word Linux
>appears 10 times on a page, it's GNU/Linux for all occurrences. I once
>used this example on another group. The IBM MVS operating system
>(where I spent most of my working days) has a similar structure.
>There's an equivalent of the kernel and another component called Data
>Facility Product without which the other code is useless and cannot
>run. Everyone calls the OS MVS and not DFP/MVS.
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>Just plain ole Linux is fine for me, and I praise Ubuntu for dropping
>the RMSism/Debianism from their documents.
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That crud's all over the documents and websites because there was a vote 
at some point to do it.  Since Debian's basically a democratic 
organization, it's certainly possible to take it back off if enough 
"someones" wanted to.  I don't see many of the naysayers volunteering to 
be Debian developers... heh, but that's pretty typical.  "Whiners in 
their Recliners" as the phrase goes...

What I think is *really* funny is that *anyone* outside the Debian 
organization complains about it.  Having to read four more characters 
sure gets people's panties in a bunch.  I think there are Debian folks 
who now just leave it on things to watch people run around like chickens 
with their heads cut off, more than it's actually a useful mechanism for 
folks to know that "GNU" did something nifty back in the day... the 
"day" being at least 20 years ago or more now.

It's interesting that even in your viewpoint, someone with zero vested 
interest in Debian or who'd need to worry about it at all -- that 
dropping four characters from the screen deserves "praise"... LOL. 

All praise Ubuntu, they killed the evil "GNU/" with a single regular 
expression replacement!  :-)

After becoming oversensitized to the whole issue by being tortured on 
mailing lists reading about it for years, just because I'm a Debian fan 
and keep up with far too many Debian lists, anyone complaining today now 
sounds (to me) like they're saying:

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling, someone called it 
GNU/Linux!"... at least to me anyway.  Such is the way of trauma.  ;-)

Nate