[clue-talk] surveillance cameras

Tony McDowell svet.am at gmail.com
Fri Sep 21 12:46:21 MDT 2007


In principle, I agree with you wholeheartedly.  However, you implicitly make
the assumption that everyone in the country/world will own and use guns
respectfully and respsonsibly.  As we have all seen in our daily lives
that's just not the case.

-tony


On 9/21/07, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu> wrote:
>
> Y'know what ~does~ reduce crime?  Guns.
>
> Normal folks knowing how to use guns, normal folks owning guns, and
> making those simple facts about the normal folks common knowledge so
> that when some heretofore normal person goes "abby normal", they think
> two or three times about the risk inherent in committing a crime.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1566715.stm
> http://newsbusters.org/node/12267
>
> Guns, not cameras.  Guns in the hands of the those who respect life.
>
> :-)
>
> On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 17:33 +0000, dennisjperkins at comcast.net wrote:
> > There was an article yesterday saying that the surveillance cameras in
> England have not reduced crime.  No surprise there.
> >
> > I'm guessing that the cameras are supposed to catch people running red
> lights.  Maybe they can identify the car, but can they identify the driver
> reliably?  It's one thing to be handed a ticket by an officer, but another
> to be identified by a camera.  Can it identify people who look very
> similar?  How about identical twins?
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: rex evans <rexfordevans at yahoo.com>
> > > I have noticed increasing use of cameras and
> > > I think their ability to see details will also
> > > increase.
> > >
> > > Surveillance at work place started with a
> > > few cameras in critical areas, for example
> > > to provide external view entry/exits, loading dock.
> > >
> > > More cameras in parking lots for security from
> > > muggers,
> > > rapists, kidnappers.
> > >
> > > Some personal items got stolen at work, so that was
> > > an excuse to put cameras in all hallways.
> > >
> > > At one telephone company, I noticed an audible click
> > > when I neared one of the exits. It was some sort of
> > > alert Sensor, that could only be heard on a quiet day.
> > > Of course there were cameras at every exit also.
> > >
> > > In this same company, I became friends with a security
> > > guard.
> > > His previous job was in the company's "listening
> > > room";
> > > they could and did monitor phone lines; their
> > > favorites
> > > were conference room phones.
> > >
> > > In one cubical, they installed a clock with hidden
> > > camera, because they had a computer (server) in the
> > > cubical.
> > >
> > > In future, insurance companies may require that each
> > > building must have surveillance of all internal areas
> > > and parking lots.
> > >
> > > I just heard Peter Boyles on radio say that Denver
> > > Police are video recording at the entrance to
> > > motorcycle events. These are mainstream events, not
> > > some Hell's Angels gatherings.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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