[clue-talk] Wow, Card's a little political...

[Sean LeBlanc]

On 10-31 21:48, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Jed S. Baer <cluemail at jbaer.cotse.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:52:40 -0600
> > Sean LeBlanc wrote:
> >
> >> Is that still alive and kicking in reich-wing circles?
> >
> > Wow. Nazis, eh? You do realize that "Nazi" is a contraction of "National
> > Socialist" in the German, i.e. "Nationalsozialismus"? The portrayal of
> > the right-wing as being equivalent to Nazis is a wonderful propaganda
> > victory by the leftists, who don't want to people to examine the actual
> > facts of the matter.
> 
> Ayup.
> 
> > Not that I'm defending the Republican party, as I have many bones to pick
> > with them, but to compare even the worst of prominent Republicans to
> > Hitler, et. al., displays a shocking lack of understanding, at best. And
> > no, I don't compare even the worst of the Democrats to the Nazis. But I
> > do recognize socialist tendencies when I see them, and label them as such.
> >
> > You might benefit from reading Jonah Golberg's excellent book, "Liberal
> > Fascism". Hell, broke as I am, I'll buy you a copy, if you promise to
> > read it in its entirety.
> 
> An excellent book. I'll go you one better. I'll give you my copy, if
> you'll read it and discuss it here in a rational fashion.

As I answered Jed, I have a lot of books on my to-read list, and, no offense
to folks that may have found it enlightening, but this one hardly looks
compelling. That, and the author is one of those guys on Wingnut Welfare
(writes for National Review Online), so it doesn't make the case any better
for him.

I've tried to read one of his pieces before with an open mind, but it was
such a gigantic turd that it was hard to do so without laughing.

Not that I was enamored of Obama's idea, either, but...oh, here, read it.
It got mentioned here, and that's where I found it, so I'll link to this
one:

http://wonkette.com/400954/jonah-goldberg-why-is-ex-slave-barack-obama-trying-to-reinstitute-slavery

If I ever get around to it, I know the library has it. It's hardly something
high on my priority list, though. 

 
> >> School variety, so we'll probably see more of the same old, same old
> >> disaster capitalism neoliberal stuff we've had for the past 20+ years...
> >
> > "Disaster capitalism"? Please, point to any example where the sincere
> > pursuit of socialism has resulted in prosperity for "the masses". See
> > again the CSM article I linked above. Actually, I don't even know if
> > that's a good reply, since I can't imagine what you're referring to by
> > such terminology.
> >
> 
> Yup, the correct term is "disaster socialism" - we'll steal from
> someone else to give to you, but never forget who is in control! Also,
> I don't understand what "neoliberal stuff" is in the first place. Is
> this old (ie non-socialist) liberalism or new liberal socialist
> claptrap or just proof you ran out of gas and were looking for a
> catchy term. Since you're promoting Chomsky (a superb linguist and
> elegant but lousy socialist), it may well be the latter.

I'm not promoting Chomsky, and if you've actually read him, you'll notice he
doesn't propose cure-all panaceas, either. I'm certainly not. The world has
a habit of not conforming to ideologies, economic or otherwise.

I mentioned him strictly to note that, again, he's pointing out that there
is little difference in the parties - especially when it comes to foreign
policy. My mention had nothing to do with "socialism" or promoting Chomsky. 
 

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