[clue-talk] Obama, McCain, and the American flag

[Nate Duehr]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Brian Gibson wrote:

> Killing another is wrong period.  Whether you do it in self- 
> defense ...

Stop there.  I do not believe you from that statement on.

Your will to survive will not allow you to be killed by another if you  
have the power to stop it, unless you have the willpower to believe  
your cause will be fulfilled by martyrdom.

You also would not stand idly by while a loved one was being killed or  
even harmed, either.  You'd do whatever you had to do to protect them.

If you say it's "wrong", that's horribly disrespectful of the real  
choice that many military people and police officers have had to make  
regularly, on your behalf.

Ayers could have protested the war without becoming a Communist,  
killing innocents, or dedicating his book on Communism to an assassin  
of one of our political leaders.  These acts are all separate, but  
cohesively show his character.

The fact that Obama would even set foot in his house, also says  
something about Obama's character.

This guy's actions can't be justified by just saying the above acts  
were just a "bad methodology".   Frankly, if you're going to continue  
this path of defending Ayers, your reputation's on the line.

And since you bring it up again, Obama's church and wife's beliefs are  
just sad, since he never intended to follow through on them.  I rate  
his character not as if he wanted to start a "black uprising" but  
instead in that he ever spent 20 years in the church and counsel of a  
man who did want that.  Obama should have left and not come back.  Was  
he supposedly sitting there in the church every Sunday disagreeing  
with his pastor, but unwilling to walk out?

I've had the character to walk out of a church embroiled in a stupid  
theological debate that ultimately tore the pastor's marriage apart...  
and Obama's supposedly a lot smarter and "more qualified" than I am to  
hold the Office of President of the United States.

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Nate Duehr
nate at natetech.com