[clue-talk] Wow, Card's a little political...

[Collins Richey]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Jed S. Baer <cluemail at jbaer.cotse.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:52:40 -0600
> Sean LeBlanc wrote:
>
>> Is that still alive and kicking in reich-wing circles?
>
> Wow. Nazis, eh? You do realize that "Nazi" is a contraction of "National
> Socialist" in the German, i.e. "Nationalsozialismus"? The portrayal of
> the right-wing as being equivalent to Nazis is a wonderful propaganda
> victory by the leftists, who don't want to people to examine the actual
> facts of the matter.

Ayup.

> Not that I'm defending the Republican party, as I have many bones to pick
> with them, but to compare even the worst of prominent Republicans to
> Hitler, et. al., displays a shocking lack of understanding, at best. And
> no, I don't compare even the worst of the Democrats to the Nazis. But I
> do recognize socialist tendencies when I see them, and label them as such.
>
> You might benefit from reading Jonah Golberg's excellent book, "Liberal
> Fascism". Hell, broke as I am, I'll buy you a copy, if you promise to
> read it in its entirety.

An excellent book. I'll go you one better. I'll give you my copy, if
you'll read it and discuss it here in a rational fashion.

>
>> School variety, so we'll probably see more of the same old, same old
>> disaster capitalism neoliberal stuff we've had for the past 20+ years...
>
> "Disaster capitalism"? Please, point to any example where the sincere
> pursuit of socialism has resulted in prosperity for "the masses". See
> again the CSM article I linked above. Actually, I don't even know if
> that's a good reply, since I can't imagine what you're referring to by
> such terminology.
>

Yup, the correct term is "disaster socialism" - we'll steal from
someone else to give to you, but never forget who is in control! Also,
I don't understand what "neoliberal stuff" is in the first place. Is
this old (ie non-socialist) liberalism or new liberal socialist
claptrap or just proof you ran out of gas and were looking for a
catchy term. Since you're promoting Chomsky (a superb linguist and
elegant but lousy socialist), it may well be the latter.

-- 
Collins Richey
     If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries
     of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.