[clue-talk] The stimulus bill

Jeremy Slade jeremy at jkslade.net
Thu Feb 5 21:36:46 MST 2009



Sean LeBlanc wrote:
> On 02-05 18:32, Nate Duehr wrote:
>>> Obama has spent most of his adult life surrounded by socialists,
>>> communists, terrorists, and America haters.
>> Sorry, the only reaction such a statement deserves is: pfft.
>> ------
>>
>> And that right there (the inability to have a discussion, but to only "pfft"
>> it) is one of the great problems in the country today.
>>
>> Talk about why you think he wouldn't be influenced by them, explain how he's
>> stronger than any other man alive and won't fall prey to the most basic of
>> desires to "fit in" in any way, whatever... make an argument.  Explain why
>> every Psychology textbook is wrong when it shows that people tend to act
>> like those they are surrounded by.
>>
>> Make a stand as to why he's so great if you don't agree, but don't just blow
>> off the real concerns of others with "pfft".  That's lame.
> 
> Okay, if the claim was true, and he spent most of his adult life around such
> types, okay, he could be influenced by them. I don't think even the
> rhetoricians that craft these memes even really mean to say that Obama spent
> most of his life around these types, they are just playing the gotcha game.
> 
> But I reject the premise. And that's really what I was pffffft'ing. 
> 
> If there is any evidence to the contrary, I'll reconsider. None was offered. 

Surely you jest?  Two very publicized instances are William Ayers and
Jeremiah Wright.

William Ayers = terrorist.

Jeremiah Wright = America hater.

Those are not people who happened to travel in the same social circles.
 They are people that he actively involved in his life over the course
of many years.

Don't expect that a discussion here is going to provide you with the
evidence you seek.  Evidence of the character of the man Obama is
readily available, and it's your own responsibility to avail yourself of it.


Jeremy


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