[clue-talk] VM shootout
dennisjperkins at comcast.net
dennisjperkins at comcast.net
Tue Aug 17 12:39:23 MDT 2010
It might be worthwhile splitting it into two talks.
I'm playing with Qemu-kvm, but I want to a comparison of all 4 because I might need to use one of them at work to solve an issue with a development program that is always incompatible with older versions. A new version is issued every year, but customers who already have an older version don't want to spend $3000 to upgrade. Reasonable, but GE doesn't see it that way. So it appears that I will be forced to support multiple versions, each one in a separate Windows image. This will be a nightmare in ten years.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson at TheGeek.NU>
To: "David Ahern" <dsahern at gmail.com>
Cc: "CLUE talk" <clue-talk at cluedenver.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [clue-talk] VM shootout
The whole talk needs to fit into ... what is it? 2 hours? That's not a lot of time.
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
MCT MSCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP
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Freeing people from the tyranny (or whatevery) of Microsofty-ness
----- "David Ahern" <dsahern at gmail.com> wrote:
> If the angle is desktop solutions, then certainly ESX, Hyper-V and
> Xen
> can be omitted. If the angle is a complete discussion of
> virtualization
> technologies and impacts to linux as a guest (or host) then all of
> them
> should included if someone will step up.
>
> Personally, I do not care about xen or Hyper-V. Nonetheless, Xen has
> a
> fairly large install base, and from what I've read their VDI solution
> is
> the farthest along -- ie., most features. M$ is always a wildcard,
> with
> preferences for their technology.
>
> As for topics, VMware's EULA does not allow distribution of
> performance
> results without their approval, so that raw performance discussions
> are out.
>
> How about an overview of the technology, options, features, etc, and
> how
> to install and configure? A basic introduction to the technologies.
> Deep-dives require some understanding by the audience.
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 08/17/10 09:26, David L. Willson wrote:
> > Do you really care about xen, or are you just adding it because it
> has some installed base?
> >
> > How about a 15 minute "show and tell" for each virt, then an
> all-presenters panel-discussion for the rest of the time, with some
> non-presenter building a feature comparison table as we panel discuss?
> Non-presenters would be responsible for coming up with good
> questions.
> >
> > I don't think performance comparison is realistic for the venue, but
> maybe someone's got an idea of how to do it quickly and easily?
> >
> > David L. Willson
> > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> > MCT MSCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP
> > tel://720.333.LANS
> > Freeing people from the tyranny (or whatevery) of Microsofty-ness
> >
> > ----- "David Ahern" <dsahern at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> xen should be added to the list as well.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/17/10 07:41, dennisjperkins at comcast.net wrote:
> >>> Thanks for volunteering. The talk will be in October instead of
> >>> September. October's meeting is at 7 PM on Oct 12, at Oracle's
> >> building
> >>> on 7700 Technology Way in Denver.
> >>>
> >>> The format still needs to be worked out. I don't know what to
> >> suggest
> >>> at this point. Installation, how to use, speed? Hopefully the
> >> speakers
> >>> can agree on what should be discussed.
> >>>
> >>> I'm starting to play with Qemu-kvm but I have a lot to learn
> about
> >> it,
> >>> such as libvirt. I don't notice any sluggishness on a 4-core
> Phenom
> >> II,
> >>> but I do see a little on my laptop with a dual-core Turion.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "David Ahern" <dsahern at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "CLUE talk" <clue-talk at cluedenver.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:40:48 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [clue-talk] VM shootout
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dennis:
> >>>
> >>> I've been following KVM & qemu for almost 3 years now, and I know
> >> it
> >>> reasonably well. I was just at the KVM Forum
> >>>
> >>> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/KVM_Forum_2010#Presentations
> >>>
> >>> and I gave a KVM related talk at LinuxCon 2010:
> >>>
> >>> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/linuxcon2010/ahern
> >>>
> >>> When is the meeting and where?
> >>>
> >>> What is the focus of the shootout: feature comparisons? How to's?
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 08/16/10 21:23, Dennis J Perkins wrote:
> >>>> There is interest in having a VM shootout for one of our monthly
> >>>> meetings. I think we have speakers for VMWare (David Willson)
> and
> >>>> proxmox (Sean Perry?). We need speakers for VirtualBox and
> >> KVM-qemu.
> >>>> Would anyone familiar with these be willing to speak?
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to have this talk in September, if possible.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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