[clue-talk] possible VMware presentation

[Mike Bean]

Let's park the idea for the moment.  I don't have a good way to reach
Mike Burton, but it still sounds like this is a sore spot, point of some
discussion, and I think I can speak with some confidence to the effect
that we (VMware) don't particularly want to go where we're not invited.

To illustrate, here's the last quote I got from my manager on the
subject

"No problem.  I would say that I've seen the presentations from the SEs
and they are semi technical, not sales pitches.  More like feature sets
and how products and features work.  The LUG needs to clarify what they
want.  But it's up to them to take the next step as we're likely able to
provide whatever they want, assuming that isn't something silly like
kernel architecture for example."

Mike Bean

(Mike Burton, on the off chance you see this, please let me know
beandaemon at gmail.com; we might be able to take some of the discussion
off the mailing list.  Quit spamming people quite so much = )

On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 20:43 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:
> Mike Burton is the speaker coordinator. If you can't get a hold of
> him, Dennis Perkins is club president. December is already booked. I
> don't know what's booked for January, February, etc...
> 
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> ----- "Mike Bean" <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > At the risk of throwing fuel on the fire, my manager did get back to
> me today.  He said the sales guys are "willing to participate in the
> LUG, depending on the details", and he asked me for a specific
> point/person of contact they could contact to discuss it.   So, is
> there a specific person/means they should contact??
> > 
> > In terms of the debate, as to what's appropriate, and what isn't, I
> can only speak on my own behalf, but I would think they're likely not
> going to do it out of the generosity of their hearts.  Even if they
> don't give the full-on sales pitch, they'll likely just see it as an
> excuse to network among like minded people, which, as long as I'm
> being honest, is one of my many reasons I went to my first CLUE
> meeting a while ago, so I can't really point a finger at that.  (no
> moral highground).
> > 
> > I would just advocate a principal of honesty, that we describe the
> group, and let them decide what kind of presentation they want to
> give.  (perhaps nudge them towards matters technical.)   Once that
> decision is made,   make that information public.  On Day X, VMware
> reps will be hearing doing X presentation.   If people aren't
> interested, or would be uncomfortable, (shrug), they don't have to
> come.
> > 
> > For my part, I can only offer to do what I can to help both sides of
> the aisle.  If there are ESX/ESXi questions they can't answer, that I
> can, I promise not to remain shy.
> > 
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