[clue-talk] On "sales people" (was Re: Sales presentations at meetings)

Shawn Perry redmop924 at comcast.net
Mon Dec 6 13:31:56 MST 2010


First, it can be an oxy moron.

Second, we are not the masses, though many of us dream to be.

Personally, I don't really want something overly technical, though I
do want a good amount of technical meat there.  I also want something
that's not overly salesy (is that a word?), but I don't mind being
sold to if sold to properly, in a language I speak.  Some sales
engineers do that, some do not.

Shawn

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ken Westervelt <gimmickless at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And let's also hope we can find people who don't think "technical
> presentations for the masses" is an oxymoron.
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Crawford Rainwater
> <crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com> wrote:
> > Shawn:
> >
> > In a nut shell "yes".  Some sales people are not "sales engineers" and some are.  When the presentation goes into what I would describe as a "used car sales pitch" scenario vs. a technical presentation, a Chris and I have pointed out, the CLUE attendees often become quite disgruntle.  From what I am understanding on recent low level of attendees to recent CLUE meetings, I would prefer meetings cater towards technical presentations for the masses to encourage return visits.
> >
> > FWIW.
> >
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> > ----- Shawn Perry <redmop924 at comcast.net> wrote: -----
> >>
> >> That is simply because the sales team did not do the proper research
> >> so they
> >> could bring the proper tools or information to the meeting. A common
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> So the issue isn't with all sales people, but instead with unprepared
> >> sales
> >> people?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:47 PM, chris fedde <chris at fedde.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Much of the time sales people have a hard time fielding detailed
> >> > questions about their product. Frequently they need to hand such
> >> > questions off to a CE or other technical support. Presentations by
> >> > sales people at a gathering like CLUE sometimes end up as a waste of
> >> > both parties time.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Shawn Perry
> >> > <redmop924 at comcast.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > What is so bad about sales people anyway?
> >> > >
> >
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