[clue-tech] Viruses, Trojan Horses

Kevin Cullis kevincu at orci.com
Wed May 24 00:40:41 MDT 2000


Hi Matt,

Thanks for the input.  While I know that Grant's lovebug.sh may be
similar and that most Linux people understand capabilities, my concern
is that with more and more adoption of Linux that the habits of Windows
will carry over into the Linux area and I'd like to learn as much as I
can about how NOT to spread this stuff around.

So, from what I've gathered, because I'm not root, I can ONLY "infect"
my stuff.  Also, based on Grant's lovebug.sh, permissions won't allow it
to spread very far if at all. Lastly, as long as my mouse doesn't touch
your mouse, we should not be contaminated, right?  ;-)

Kevin

Matt Durell wrote:
> 
> That would be pretty hard to pin down.
> 
> It's not the OS that makes it protected... It's the users.  Most users
> aren't going to bother running some weird script.  Plus, it's typically
> harder to launch something automatically.
> 
> Generally, Linux users are more aware than Windows users.  However, it gets
> the best of us every once and a while.  Not too long ago I got an email from
> a VB developer I know.  Attached was a .vbs script.  I figured it was
> something cutesy he did.  I thought twice before opening just-in-case.  I
> figured, "the virus checker is running."  Well, even though it was, it
> didn't detect this one due to a misconfiguration (bad, bad, *BAD* default
> value!).  Needless to say, this worm was fired-off to my boss, my bosses
> boss, his boss, and every one of my customers!  I have no acquired the
> nickname "Buggy."  I should have read the code.
> 
> Anyways, because people that use Linux are generally more "in-tune" this
> type of thing would likely not spread.  unfortunately, there are dorks like
> me that ruin it for everyone.
> 
> BTW, in terms of numbers, I would have to say 0.  I don't know of anything
> since the Morris Worm that has been written.  Of course, there is the WWW
> which, as useful as it is, may as well be a virus (the net was *SO* much
> better back then... Damn Mosaic!).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clue-tech-admin at ta8.techangle.com
> [mailto:clue-tech-admin at ta8.techangle.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Cullis
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:12 PM
> To: CLUE-Tech
> Subject: [clue-tech] Viruses, Trojan Horses
> 
> Hey,
> 
> Can anyone find out how many viruses and/or Trojan horses Linux has been
> "infected" with?  Grant, I know you and Matt have commented that each of
> us can be infected, but chances are less than with Windows stuff.  Could
> someone give me an idea, from a number perspective, what Linux is up
> against?  Thanks.
> 
> Kevin
> 
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