[CLUE-Tech] linux & broadband

Fri Aug 10 13:29:38 MDT 2001

On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Cyberclops wrote:

> I don't know how to set up a Linux or a Windows network, but I did offer an
> explanation of what I have picked up from various club meetings, both here, and
> in Honolulu.  My own personal experience with Windows is that it's absolutely
> one of the most miserable O$'s that anyone could dream up.  In contrast, my
> Libranet Linux 1.9.1 is a dream machine closely resembling Macintosh in ease of
> operation.  What's wrong with expressing that?

The "explanation" you gave had absolutely NO useful information other
than your opinion. He wasn't asking for opinions, he was asking "how 
do I do this?" The comment about "thought control" was really uncalled
for. 

Are you just spoiling for a pissing match, or could you just let it drop
now? 

Zonker

> David Willson wrote:
> 
> > No sir, I am into answering the friggin' question;  it is a more effective
> > method of promoting Linux, and if by some chance an opportunity arises
> > within the context of the question to bash a company I hate, I might do
> > that, but ...
> >
> > Your answer seemed, and still does seem, to be pure propaganda.  I read it
> > three times before making my very light criticism.
> >
> > My unasked-for-advice to anyone attempting to promote Linux is to get
> > comfortable with the knowledge that most people start out wanting to "add
> > Linux" to their computing lives, not "break the Windows habit".  Approach
> > them in a manner consistent with their goals, and you will be very
> > successful in promoting Linux in their lives.
> >
> > This fellow is a perfect example.  You may feel that in offering him your
> > valuable opinion, you are saving him configuration time or wasted effort
> > with the Windows box and encouraging a more appropriate, to your mind,
> > configuration; however, he claims to be "new to Linux" and clearly stated
> > his initial goal.  My impression of the situation is that if he were to
> > attempt, right now, to set up Linux as a gateway for his Windows box, he
> > will not only fail, but he will also send up frustrated and Linux will have
> > become "frustrating" by association.
> >
> > His self-set goal is reasonable, so rather than pushing him toward a goal
> > six times as difficult to reach, an effective Linux-promoter, and a helpful
> > person, will just help him reach it.
> >
> > Oh, and I'm sorry for sending HTML from Outlook Express last time, and for
> > enclosing more opinion than information this time.  That last makes me
> > something of a hypocrite, but I did want to answer the question fully.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cyberclops
> > To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 7:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CLUE-Tech] linux & broadband
> >
> > Are you into thought control?
> > David Willson wrote:
> >  Cyberclops, that answer was less than useful.  Try the exploratory
> > approach, instead:Himanshu, what version of Windows do you have there?  Are
> > you planning to add to your network, or stick with two machines for now?
> > How many Network Interface Cards (NICs) do you have available?You will need
> > three to do what you are attempting:Two for your "gateway" box: One for the
> > 'Net, one for your LAN.One for your client box.  Your LAN can be a hub, if
> > you're planning to add machines to it, or a crossover cable.You probably
> > should consider using the Linux box as the firewall/gateway, but your
> > configuration is possible, and relatively simple.  Configure your Linux box
> > as dynamically as possible.  This should be the default condition, when you
> > have installed the NIC.  Next, set up "Internet Connection Sharing" or
> > "Routing and Remote Access" on the Windows box.  Which one you use will be
> > determined by which version of Windows you have.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cyberclops
> > To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CLUE-Tech] linux & broadband
> >  I'm of the opinion that most people do it the other way around.  They use
> > Linux as the master connection and Windows as the slave.  As I understand
> > it, they make this decision based on Linux's superior firewall capabilities,
> > and more overall versatility in connecting to different operating systems.
> > In short, Windows as a multifaceted operating system is less than optimal.
> > Himanshu Sharma wrote:
> > Hi,I am new to Linux. I am trying to configure it so I can connect to the
> > internet. I have another machine running windows and connected to the net
> > via a cable modem. I want to use the windows machine as a gateway and
> > network the linux box to this machine. I am completely clueless on how to go
> > about doing it. Any help would be appreciated. thanks,himanshu
> >
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