[CLUE-Tech] Network Guru?
Jef Barnhart
jef at batky-howell.com
Mon Dec 17 12:02:41 MST 2001
A) the rules have not changed just the notation.
B) HMM... The setup may know how to parce the notation in setting up the network.
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I believe that you need to set up the network this way.
12.147.70.88/27
12.147.70.88 with a subnet mask that is 27 bits. This is the CIDR(?) way of doing the network notation. Twentyfour (24) bits will get you 255.255.255.0 . Twentyseven (27) bits will get you 255.255.255.224 .
255.255.255.0 > 11111111.11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000
255.255.255.224 > 11111111.11111111.11111111.11111111.11100000
A neat program that I ran across is cidr.
jef>$ /usr/local/bin/cidr 14.147.70.88/27
ip address..........: 14.147.70.88
netmask.............: 255.255.255.224
network address.....: 14.147.70.64
broadcast address...: 14.147.70.95
please wait while host addresses are validated...
total host addresses: 30
This is a very helpful program to have around for this stuff. It will compute the broadcast, network, and subnetmask.
Sorry if I rambled. I got carried away with this.
Jef
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:32:07 -0800 (PST)
Keith Hellman <kehellman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello all, I need the input of a network guru:
>
> I seem to recall that some of the fundamental rules at the IP layer is
> that:
> * Every node on a subnet must have all it's network bits set appropriately
> in its IP address.
> * Node must be to the right of the LSB of the network address
>
> I've been told (by IT in my org) to use: 12.147.70.88/27 for a little
> embedded device. This doesn't make sense to me...
> 12.147.70.88 = 12.147.70.01011000
> network 12.147.70.224 = 12.147.70.11100000
> (last octets in bin, duh..)
>
> Admittedly my notebook (running SuSE 7.2/kernel 2.4.X) works aok on the
> jack. But the embedded device (2.0.38 linux kernel) can't even ping or be
> pinged.
>
> On my development network, I can recreate the problem, and when I switch
> the IP address to include the network bits - everything works AOK.
>
> So, my questions are:
> A) Am I way off base here? Am I thinking circa 80's IP rules and things
> are different now?
> B) Apparently an implementation has changed in the linux kernel since my
> notebook doesn't complain - is this true?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> =====
> Keith E. Hellman
> kehellman at yahoo.com
>
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