[CLUE-Tech] UPS Recommendations?

ian iguy at ionsphere.org
Fri Jul 27 12:56:24 MDT 2001 

That is SO far outside my realm of knowledge.  I wouldn't know where to
begin there.  Sooo.. I stick to the send it back via RMA.

If you know how to do it and what battery I should get and what I need
to modify I'd be willing to give it a shot.

ian
 


On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 08:54:00AM -0600, Cyberclops wrote:
> Did you open them up and see if you could get a substitute battery locally that would
> work?  I had a similar problem with a Ryobi weedeater.   The official battery was
> $65.00, but I got a similar replacement that actually worked better for $17.00.  I
> did have to modify the battery box a bit with a Dremel tool and change the wiring a
> bit but it works and works better, plus now I have a standard replacement.
> 
> ian wrote:
> 
> > *nod*  Get the protection.  The key thought about all this in my mind is the
> > fact that you get what you pay for usually.  APC tends to be mega expensive
> > compared to some of the other models out there.  However APC is still in
> > business and the batteries are replacable rather simply.  I purchased a
> > couple of CyberPowers a couple of years ago and they have done wonders for
> > me.  However now that all 3 batteries have died I need to ship the units
> > back to CyberPower to replace the battery.  They pretty much consider my
> > UPSes to be "faulty??"  and gave me an RMA.
> >
> > Now batteries do go bad after time and do need to be replaced usually
> > on the order of every 18 months or so.  FYI
> >
> > ian
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 03:39:53PM +0000, jimintriglia at americanisp.net wrote:
> > > Hi-
> > >
> > > Let me throw in my .02 cents in here as well. I've had an APC Back-UPS Pro 650
> > > for a number of years now, and it's save my butt (and equipment) more times than
> > > I can count. I'm on my second battery which I purchased via the APC web site.
> > > They sent a postage-paid label to return the old battery in, which was great!
> > >
> > > We have frequent power outages, surges and God knows what else up here in
> > > Conifer, and anybody who lives in this area doesn't think twice about a UPS. (If
> > > they do, the lesson is fast in coming ;-).
> > >
> > > One thing to note - ensure you get phone jack protection (if you have dialup
> > > access) and run the lines to the UPS then two your computer. Lost two systems a
> > > year back due to lightning-induced surge on the phone line. If you go cable
> > > modem or two-way Satellite, be sure to protect the feed into your systems.
> > >
> > > APC also has Linux drivers/software available to support real-time UPS
> > > status/power reporting as well as auto-shutdown.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > JimI.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > **  hello, jed - -
> > > >
> > > >         i use the apc smartups 700.  i'm
> > > >     no electrical engineer (good GOD no)
> > > >     but the manual asserts
> > > >
> > > >         on battery          low distortion
> > > >         waveshape           sine wave
> > > >
> > > >     i don't remember what it cost me (have
> > > >     had it 3 or 4 yrs) but it can't have
> > > >     been all that much, or i wouldn't have
> > > >     paid it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     couple of other things i like:
> > > >
> > > >     a few weeks ago i noticed a red light
> > > >     on the front panel along with the various
> > > >     greens.
> > > >
> > > >     checking out the manual i found that it
> > > >     was the "replace battery" light.
> > > >
> > > >     reading further i found the 800 number
> > > >     for t.s.  calling it and making selections
> > > >     from the menus i found myself connected to
> > > >     a company called   insight   which asserts
> > > >     it is the official replacement-battery
> > > >     vendor for apc.  they were happy to sell
> > > >     me a set of replacement batteries for about
> > > >     $80.
> > > >
> > > >     when they got here i was able to open up
> > > >     the box [had never done this before] and
> > > >     replace the batteries with little trouble.
> > > >
> > > >     after a few hours with no computer while
> > > >     the new batteries charged, i am again
> > > >     humming along smoothly.
> > > >
> > > >     did a google search on    smartups    .
> > > >     got about 6,100 hits  (some of which,
> > > >     however, appear to be in  Old Finnish ).
> > > >
> > > >     some are articles.  some are willing to
> > > >     sell you a smartups right on the spot.
> > > >     some mention   suse   and   debian  , so
> > > >     presumably the  "smart" feature (tells
> > > >     the computer to shut itself down if there's
> > > >     a prolonged power outage and the batteries
> > > >     are in danger of running out of gas) is
> > > >     linux-aware.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                      h t h,
> > > >
> > > >                              bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Jed S. Baer" <thag at frii.com> wrote:
> > > > > After two power outages in a week, one of which
> > > > > cost me a motherboard,
> > > > > I've decided I need an UPS. Does anyone have
> > > > > any particular
> > > > > recommendations? The UPS-HOWTO seems hopelessly
> > > > > out-of-date for web
> > > > > links, anyway. And I suspect for capabilities
> > > > > of powerd as well. (Yeah,
> > > > > I'll read the powerd man page too. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems if I want true sinusoidal output, it's
> > > > > gonna really cost me. I
> > > > > don't suppose that's a necessity.
> > > > >
> > > > > A few of places I've looked so far:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.4ups.com/ (refurbed Deltec, unknown
> > > > > VA rating)
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.fentonups.com/Products/PowerPal/powerpal.html
> > > > > http://www.jetta-tech.com/Products_main.htm
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.baber.com/baber/products/powersupplies.htm
> > > > > (Optiquest?)
> > > > > http://www.tripplite.com/
> > > > > http://www.bestpower.com/ (Useless website,
> > > > > AFAICT)
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing I find curious is the extreme
> > > > > variance in the "recommended"
> > > > > units given by 3 different web-based estimation
> > > > > programs -- in terms of
> > > > > the VA rating. My (admittedly lots of headroom
> > > > > here) PC has a 300W power
> > > > > supply. I haven't stuck my head behind my
> > > > > moniter yet to see what it
> > > > > wants (it's a 19" Sony). I'd like to put my
> > > > > alarm clock on it as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to the UPS-HOWTO, APC and TrippLite
> > > > > aren't Free-Software
> > > > > friendly. Anyone know if this is still true?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA.
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > jed
> > > > > --
> > > > > "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering
> > > > > if they've made a
> > > > >  difference. Free Software developers don't
> > > > > have that problem."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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