How about a CLI KISS session? (was Re: [CLUE-Tech] /cli/suks)

[Cyberclops]

You make a lot of good points, and the idea of having as session on how
to get the most out of bash is a good one.  I'm in Hawaii right now, and
won't be back until May 1, so hopefully there will be a session then.  I
would like to see all Linux clubs working to help users make their own
systems user friendly.  I'm sure there are a ton of tricks I know
nothing about.  One of the thoughts I've had is at least some of us
should have a session where we create a simple file of our own creation
and manipulate it every way possible with the CLI, in order to better
understand the syntax and how it works.  These types of sessions can't
be just one time deals.  They have to be on going, becuase hopefully now
users will continue to come on board all the time.

"Jeffery C. Cann" wrote:
> 
> On Friday 23 March 2001 06:09, Cyberclops wrote:
> > Obviously it has its place, but I don't see it as the most desirable
> > interface for a home personal computer.
> 
> I don't think that anyone is advocating the CLI as the only interface for a
> PC.  I am writing this in Kmail, a graphical email program.  Sure, I could
> use PINE, but I prefer the graphical presentation of my emails.  My point is
> that life without a good CLI add unecessary difficulty to many computing
> problems because a GUI is simply not as flexible as using CLI to string
> together commands and pipes.
> 
> > I was pointing up the fact that it's prone to the possibility of error due
> > to mistyping,
> 
> See, the cool thing about BASH (the default linux shell) is that you can use
> the 'tab' key to complete directory and filenames.  This helps with
> mistypings.  Try it out.  Do an ls <tab> and see what happens.  If you have a
> file called bob in your home directory, do an ls b<tab> and BASH will
> complete the file name.  This works for directories as well.  It is useful
> and prevents typos.
> 
> > While the CLI may be powerful, it's not intuitive.
> 
> IHMO, the CLI is intuitive.  However, users must spend a little time with it
> to get maximum benefit.  Futher, I would argue that many GUIs are not
> intuitive.  They do not use standard icons.  Some icons are not intuitive.
> The location of things such as options or configurations is not consistent.
> Why do I double-click in some GUIs but single click in others?
> 
> Would it help you if we had CLI KISS session at an upcoming meeting?  This
> may help you (and other CLUEbies) get the most from their CLI.
> 
> Let me know and I can ask Lynn D. to schedule something.
> 
> Jeff
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