[CLUE-Tech] Fwd: voluntary blackout [thought this was a neat idea]

[ian]

I do have to say that people have the right to do what they want with the 
resources that they are given.  This is america and it is a relatively
free nation on the Earth.  

This does not mean that I agree with it.  

I do take offense when idiot SUV owner goes and starts to complaining 
the might argument of "I have the right to cheap gas" when gas goes 
above $2/gallon.  Actually you don't.  You have the right to buy the 
car that you did and pay the price of gas.  You do not have the right 
to set that price.  This is america.  Capitalist is key.

I do take offense when that same SUV owner complains that his kid has
severe asthma do to the poor air quality.  Considering his vehicle
generates about 3 times the emissions that my car does.  

If I had a choice in my life I would buy and own an electric or fuel
cell car.  However I can't afford that right now fiscially.

If you don't like how people are using electricty or gas then tell your
representative or senator to tighten up the laws around the usage of
those things.  

I do not want to live in a socialist country.  Some things are better
and some things are worse.  However if you want to tell people what
they should or shouldn't do and enforce it go to one of those countries.
That's where America has been great.  They let you shoot yourself in 
the foot and if enough Americans think that you shouldn't be allowed
to shoot yourself in the foot anymore.  Then a law is enacted and 
enforced to keep you from doing that.  

ian




On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:42:18PM -0600, Cyberclops wrote:
> One man's energy is another man's energy.  There is onl;y a finite amount
> and it is reasonable to conserve it.  What is unreasonable are dorks that
> drive SUV's.
> 
> Jim Ockers wrote:
> 
> > OK, this rubbed me the wrong way.  Why is this even on the clue-tech
> > mailing list?
> >
> > <FLAME>
> >
> > This is inappropriate material for the clue-tech mailing list, and
> > furthermore is indicative of people who have not fully though through
> > the matter of how our economy depends on the availability of energy,
> > and how the federal government cannot make you use less energy any
> > more than they can force you to eat healthy food, exercise, or stay
> > out of debt.
> >
> > I invite you to move to a third-world country where there are fewer
> > evil companies and corporations who exploit the Earth's resources.
> > And while you are going you should travel there using only home-made
> > and human-powered transportation.  Don't pack your bags in any
> > suitcases made of metal or synthetic materials - use a burlap bag
> > or something.
> >
> > Good luck getting clean water, good healthcare, food, and so forth
> > in your new country.
> >
> > </FLAME>
> >
> > Or perhaps were you taking your nice home, clean water, car(s),
> > roads, healthcare, and so forth for granted, even though the
> > technology and materials are brought to you by corporations who
> > exploit and "misuse" natural resources?  And the fact that your
> > home is heated in the winter and perhaps cooled in the summer?
> >
> > Make sure you are not taking a bunch of stuff for granted before
> > you make political statements of this nature in the future.
> >
> > > > > >This could be fun if enough people participate!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >ROLL YOUR OWN BLACK OUT
> > > > > > > >THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER
> > > > > > > JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,
> > > > > > > 7 - 10 pm worldwide, all time zones
> > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >In protest of George W. Bush's energy policies and lack of
> > > > > > >emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative fuels,
> > > > > > >there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on the first day of
> > > > > > >Summer, June 21 at 7 pm - 10 pm in any time zone
> > > > > > >(this will roll it across the planet).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >It's a simple protest and a symbolic act. Turn out your lights
> > > > > > >from 7 pm - 10 pm (your local time) on June 21. Unplug
> > > > > > >whatever you can unplug in your house. Light a candle for
> > > > > > >the Sun, kiss, make love, play games, tell ghost stories,
> > > > > > >do something instead of watching television,
> > > > > > >have fun in the dark.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Forward this email as widely as possible, to your government
> > > > > > >representatives and environmental contacts. Let them know
> > > > > > >we want global education, participation and funding in
> > > > > > >conservation, efficiency and alternative energy efforts --
> > > > > > >and an end to over exploitation and misuse of the Earth's
> > > > > > >resources.> >
> > > > > > >*********
> > > >
> >
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