[CLUE-Tech] Fwd: voluntary blackout [thought this was a neat idea]

[Cyberclops]

Good Post!

ian wrote:

> I do have to say that people have the right to do what they want with the
> resources that they are given.  This is america and it is a relatively
> free nation on the Earth.
>
> This does not mean that I agree with it.
>
> I do take offense when idiot SUV owner goes and starts to complaining
> the might argument of "I have the right to cheap gas" when gas goes
> above $2/gallon.  Actually you don't.  You have the right to buy the
> car that you did and pay the price of gas.  You do not have the right
> to set that price.  This is america.  Capitalist is key.
>
> I do take offense when that same SUV owner complains that his kid has
> severe asthma do to the poor air quality.  Considering his vehicle
> generates about 3 times the emissions that my car does.
>
> If I had a choice in my life I would buy and own an electric or fuel
> cell car.  However I can't afford that right now fiscially.
>
> If you don't like how people are using electricty or gas then tell your
> representative or senator to tighten up the laws around the usage of
> those things.
>
> I do not want to live in a socialist country.  Some things are better
> and some things are worse.  However if you want to tell people what
> they should or shouldn't do and enforce it go to one of those countries.
> That's where America has been great.  They let you shoot yourself in
> the foot and if enough Americans think that you shouldn't be allowed
> to shoot yourself in the foot anymore.  Then a law is enacted and
> enforced to keep you from doing that.
>
> ian
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:42:18PM -0600, Cyberclops wrote:
> > One man's energy is another man's energy.  There is onl;y a finite amount
> > and it is reasonable to conserve it.  What is unreasonable are dorks that
> > drive SUV's.
> >
> > Jim Ockers wrote:
> >
> > > OK, this rubbed me the wrong way.  Why is this even on the clue-tech
> > > mailing list?
> > >
> > > <FLAME>
> > >
> > > This is inappropriate material for the clue-tech mailing list, and
> > > furthermore is indicative of people who have not fully though through
> > > the matter of how our economy depends on the availability of energy,
> > > and how the federal government cannot make you use less energy any
> > > more than they can force you to eat healthy food, exercise, or stay
> > > out of debt.
> > >
> > > I invite you to move to a third-world country where there are fewer
> > > evil companies and corporations who exploit the Earth's resources.
> > > And while you are going you should travel there using only home-made
> > > and human-powered transportation.  Don't pack your bags in any
> > > suitcases made of metal or synthetic materials - use a burlap bag
> > > or something.
> > >
> > > Good luck getting clean water, good healthcare, food, and so forth
> > > in your new country.
> > >
> > > </FLAME>
> > >
> > > Or perhaps were you taking your nice home, clean water, car(s),
> > > roads, healthcare, and so forth for granted, even though the
> > > technology and materials are brought to you by corporations who
> > > exploit and "misuse" natural resources?  And the fact that your
> > > home is heated in the winter and perhaps cooled in the summer?
> > >
> > > Make sure you are not taking a bunch of stuff for granted before
> > > you make political statements of this nature in the future.
> > >
> > > > > > >This could be fun if enough people participate!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >ROLL YOUR OWN BLACK OUT
> > > > > > > > >THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER
> > > > > > > > JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,
> > > > > > > > 7 - 10 pm worldwide, all time zones
> > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >In protest of George W. Bush's energy policies and lack of
> > > > > > > >emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative fuels,
> > > > > > > >there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on the first day of
> > > > > > > >Summer, June 21 at 7 pm - 10 pm in any time zone
> > > > > > > >(this will roll it across the planet).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >It's a simple protest and a symbolic act. Turn out your lights
> > > > > > > >from 7 pm - 10 pm (your local time) on June 21. Unplug
> > > > > > > >whatever you can unplug in your house. Light a candle for
> > > > > > > >the Sun, kiss, make love, play games, tell ghost stories,
> > > > > > > >do something instead of watching television,
> > > > > > > >have fun in the dark.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Forward this email as widely as possible, to your government
> > > > > > > >representatives and environmental contacts. Let them know
> > > > > > > >we want global education, participation and funding in
> > > > > > > >conservation, efficiency and alternative energy efforts --
> > > > > > > >and an end to over exploitation and misuse of the Earth's
> > > > > > > >resources.> >
> > > > > > > >*********
> > > > >
> > >
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