[CLUE-Tech] Database Design Tool for Linux?
Jed S. Baer
thag at frii.com
Thu Jan 17 18:55:20 MST 2002
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:22:50 -0700 (MST)
"Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier" <jbrockmeier at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Doing a google search, I find the usual culprits, such as DeZign,
> > Embarcadero, ErWin, etc., but they are all Windoze tools, AFAICT.
>
> There are two for Linux that you might try, unfortunately they're
> not freeware.
>
> The Kompany makes Data Architect:
> http://www.thekompany.com/products/dataarchitect/
>
> and Kivio MP:
> http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/
Not even terribly expensive. I see there are free demo versions
Kivio - 1MB gzipped. I might even dl it later.
DA - 354MB - don't think I'll do that
> Kivio is a general purpose diagram program, Data Architect is
> a database modeling tool. Both run on Linux or Windoze.
...
> I don't know of any other tools (than Data Architect) that are
> specifically for database design. More than likely most folks
> are doing a lot of the design work with Windows tools
[sigh]
> (or pen and paper...)
^^^
Yep, We Don't Need no Steenking Erasers! Of course, all my models spring
forth from my mind already in 5th-normal form.
> Hope that is of some help.
Adds to the list. Maybe I should just break down and load StarOffice, and
try their drawing tool. Anyone got a platter I can use? (I'm on RH 7.1)
--
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men,
undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine
Received: from voldemort.arabie.org ([216.38.34.105])
by clue.denver.co.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04096
for <clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:55:05 -0700
Received: from localhost (IDENT:rrarabie at localhost [127.0.0.1])
by voldemort.arabie.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0HMtYP06760
for <clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:55:34 -0700
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:55:33 -0700 (MST)
From: Randy Arabie <rrarabie at arabie.org>
To: <clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us>
Subject: Re: [CLUE-Tech] X-Sever/KDE "tuning"
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201171537370.6750-100000 at voldemort.arabie.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Sender: clue-tech-admin at clue.denver.co.us
Errors-To: clue-tech-admin at clue.denver.co.us
X-BeenThere: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
List-Id: CLUE technical discussions, questions and answers. <clue-tech.clue.denver.co.us>
Well everyone, I'm "back". It's been a painfull month-and-a-half with regard to my internet connectivity. I'm connecting via DSL now...going back to dial-up after 18 months of blissfull AT&T Broadband was no fun.
I wanted to thank those who gave me suggestions regarding my X-Server/KDE tuning questions. Unfortunatley, I have not had a chance to try any. The PC in question is now in the shop, I'm trying to diagnose some "mysterious" lock-ups.
The PC ran fine for nearly two years (windows), and was happily liberated to RH Linux. As a Linux box it ran fine for a few weeks, then started locking.
When I say lock, I mean no response to keyboard or mouse. I couldn't even ssh in from another host and it wouldn't respond to pings. I had to hard reset / powerdown.
In console mode (i.e. no X running), I did get kernel panic messages. I was running the default kernal, not a custom compile. However, I don't think it was the kernal 'cause I slapped in a spare HD and installed Windows2000 and experienced the same locking problem.
So, I decided it must be hardware. I pulled out all the extras and ran the thing with only one stick of RAM, the keyboard, video/monitor, and HD. Still had the problem. I tried swapping my RAM...still had the problem.
So, I decided it must be my power supply, the CPU, or the mainboard.
I installed a monitoring utility that came with my mainboard, and it did show that my 12v power was exceeding the tolerences on occasion. But, it wasn't locking the machine.
I brought it in to the local PC store and had a techician look it over. He told me today that it ran for 20 hours without locking.
Any ideas?
Specs:
DFI Mainboard
256 MB RAM (PC-100)
AMD K6/2 500 mHz (no overclocking)
--
Cheers!
Randy
------- Start of forwarded message -------
From: Adam_Bultman at gmx.net
To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
Reply-To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
Subject: Re: [CLUE-Tech] X-Sever/KDE "tuning"
Date: 12/5/01 09:29:31
That sounds wretchedly slow. My PIII 500 And celeron 550
roar with linux--
except when I'm compiling a million things at once.
Check what services you are running. I bet you there are
lots of services
that are running you don't need. As well, download/compile
the newest kernel
source (www.kernel.org). You can take out a lot of things
that might make
things go slow.
As well. KDE is slow to begin with. It's got nice sounds,
etc, but BlackBox
and Windowmaker are far faster.
adam
> Randy Arabie wrote:
>
> > I've been using RH Linux for 3+ years now, but stayed
away
> > from the GUI. This was mainly due to the low budget,
hand-
> > me-down, ancient hardware (486's) I have for home PC
usage.
> > And, I wasn't using Linux as a "productivity" machine...I
> > didn't need it for word processing, spreadsheets, etc....
> >
> > I do have a "modern" box at home that, until Saturday,
was
> > running Windoze 2000. However, I liberated it, and it is
now
> > running RH 7.1 (would be 7.2 or another 'flavor' if my
@home
> > service wouldn't have died).
>
>
> Good for you! I'm sure your computer appreciates it. :)
>
>
> > I like the new KDE "look and feel" however, I'm not at
all
> > impressed with the performance. Things load really slow.
I
> > launch an application and then sit and wait, watch the
> > "spinning disc" icon down on the toolbar, it disappears,
then
> > I wait a little longer, and then suddenly my application
> > appears. The total time varies, but even a simple x-term
> > took 23 seconds to load.
>
>
> That sounds unusually slow. There are a couple of things
you can
> do that will help, though...
>
> 1. Turn off extra eye-candy & such. For instance, you'll
see quite
> an improvement dragging windows if you change the settings
to not
> display contents of moving windows (in the KControl Panel).
There
> are a lot of extras in KDE that can be turned off to get
better
> performance.
> 2. Reduce the number of virtual desktops.
> 3. Upgrade KDE to 2.2.2 when @Home comes back up -- that
will show
> some improvement, each new release has some performance
improvements.
> 4. Try less memory-intensive window manager/desktops. Even
though I
> have a monster desktop, I use XFce most of the time -- it's
pretty
> full-featured and it screams. It's not quite as visually
appealing as
> GNOME or KDE, but much, much faster. WindowMaker and IceWM
are also
> pretty speedy.
>
>
> > Does anyone have any tips for improving (tunining) the
> > performance of X or the window manager?
> >
> > My system is an AMD K6II 500 with 256 MB RAM, and 10 GB
IDE
> > HD. The video card I'm using is a S3 ViRGE/DX with 4 MB
> > memory onboard.
>
> >
>
> > I expect the first recommendation to be upgrade the video
> > card. That may be an option, but I'm hoping I can find
> > another solution. I don't play games, so I'm not after
that
> > sort of performance. I do a little graphics for webpage
> > design. However, my wife had Photoshop 6 on Windoze 2000
and
> > the system handled that fine...shouldn't Linux be able to
do
> > it too?
>
>
> Yes, but... the drivers may not be as well optimized for
Linux
> as they were for Windows. Also, is this a PCI or AGP video
card?
> You'll see dramatic improvement switching from a PCI video
card
> to an AGP card. You can find some nice cheap cards that run
> with Linux at ComputerGeeks.com.
>
> What version of XFree86 are you using? Upgrading XFree
might
> show some performance improvment as well.
>
> Take care,
>
> Zonker
> --
> Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier -=- jbrockmeier at earthlink.net
> http://www.DissociatedPress.net/
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> "Ever feel like nothing good was ever going to happen to
you?"
> -- Christopher Moltisanti
> "Yeah, and nothin' did. So what?" -- Paulie Walnuts
>
> _______________________________________________
> CLUE-Tech mailing list
> CLUE-Tech at clue.denver.co.us
> http://clue.denver.co.us/mailman/listinfo/clue-tech
>
--
Adam Bultman
adam_bultman at bigfoot.com
Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
_______________________________________________
CLUE-Tech mailing list
CLUE-Tech at clue.denver.co.us
http://clue.denver.co.us/mailman/listinfo/clue-tech
-------- End of forwarded message --------
--
Cheers!
Randy
==========================================================
Randy Arabie
GnuPG Key Info --
Print: 75CB 1707 3C14 EF94 22E1 995F 7286 97DC B41D 79CE
Key ID: 7C603AEF
Keyserver: seattle.keyserver.net
==========================================================
More information about the clue-tech
mailing list