[CLUE-Tech] Access to ATT Cable systems? (more)

[Dave Price]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 07:56:48AM -0600, David Anselmi wrote:
> Dave Price wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I am trying to set up remote access into an att broadband system.
>  >
>  > The system appears to have ip address of: 12.254.89.67
> 
> Curious that you aren't sure...
> 
> [...]
I base my address info on examining the IP address info of the router,
and my syslog traces - there are no contradictions, only the fact that
the address seems 'unroutable'.
>  >
>  > However, I cannnot traceroute or ping to this address - nor can I use
>  > PC-Anywhere (the desired application) to connect to a host at this
>  > address.
> 
> If those tools fail, you might try netcat:
> 
> (http://www.atstake.com/research/tools/#network_utilities)
> 
Perhaps I will ...
> 
> Here's a hypothesis.  This 12.254... machine is behind a box that does
> NAT.  As I understand it, this would be a firewall or one of these
> "cable/dsl routers" that combine a switch and a router and plug into the
> cable modem.  In that case (typical for a SOHO network) the machine can
> see the outside, but the outside can't see in unless you set up DNAT (as
> Rusty calls it, also called port forwarding or PAT or somesuch).

There is a linksys router doing NAT involved, but I have already set up
port forwarding - When PCAW failed to connect, I fell back to ping /
traceroute to the router interface ... and this fails too.

I also tried accessing the PCAW 'remote' site (another attbi.com system)
this is at 12.254.88.143, and connected directly to the cable modem (no
router or NAT on the client side.  IP address again confirmed by
winipcfg and syslog entries on my own host.  

<snip-apache access log>
12.254.88.143 - - [21/Oct/2002:19:47:35 -0600] "GET /cgi-bin/neomail.pl
HTTP/1.1" 200 2367
</snip-apache access log>

No go here either - the 2 ATT systems cannot even ping one another!

Any other ideas?  Has anyone here gotten remote access into an attbi.com
system to fly?

I suspect that att is doing some NAT or filtereing of their own at the
head-end ....

aloha,
dave