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[Jef Barnhart]

Yea, My comment was over the top I may never leave the group. 

I was just trying to make a point that, I thought, we are here for the
community. If we drive away one person because of our actions he/she
will then tell other people that linux sucks and the community that they
preach about is wagon load of crap. 

I just am going to ask that we treat people with the respect that they
deserve. Not everybody has been using the internet since it's inception.
Everybody here was a rookie at one time. Please try to remember that. 

Jef

I now invoke the name of Hitler to end this thread.

On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 16:43, Matt Gushee wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:52:40PM -0400, Randy Arabie wrote:
> > 
> > 5.  I don't think the anyone over-reacted.  While the first request was 
> > met with a rather blunt response, I wouldn't consider it rude.  And, 
> > IMO the responses to the second request were "earned".
> 
> Randy, you are a gentleman and a scholar. But I think some of us did
> overreact. I was unnecessarily sarcastic, which is not like me (except
> in political debates, which are a whole different ball game). Maybe I
> was having a bad day. But since that's all I ever seem to have anymore,
> maybe I should just get used to it.
> 
> I also thought Jef B's thing about wondering whether he wants to be
> associated with us was a bit over the top. I mean, look, most of us know
> each other to a greater or lesser extent, and we should all know better
> than to judge anyone by one or two e-mails. David Willson may have
> written an all-caps subject line, but I know he's a nice guy. One or two
> people (no names today ;-) may have put forth some really lame arguments
> in the Great Iraq Debates, but it doesn't mean they're idiots. I got a
> bit sharp with our unsubscriber, but if you were to look at all my
> mailing list posts over the last few years, you would see that I have
> consistently advocated the be-nice-to-newbies approach, and usually
> practiced what I preached.
> 
> The point is, this is an e-mail discussion group, and sometimes people
> say things they shouldn't. It happens. But not much here. In my two
> years on the CLUE lists, I have never seen an honest-to-goodness flame
> war, and with very few exceptions the discussions are mature,
> good-natured, and informative. So, I apologize for my unnecessary
> bluntness. Now let's all just calm down, shall we?
> 
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