[CLUE-Tech] Escape from RH 8.0

[Collins]

On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:20 am, David Anselmi wrote:
> Jed S. Baer wrote:

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> [...]
>
> To go with DLL Hell that MS developers suffer, I call this "GUI Hell".
> That's when the dialog says "Click cancel to prevent <some undesirable
> action>." and all you have is a "Yes" button.
>
> >>>Well, since I'm ranting away, anyone know how to disable the
> >>>"/dev/hdd=ide-scsi" in Grub? I removed that from the Grub config
> >>>window when installing, but it still loads up the scsi modules at
> >>>boot, but there aren't any lines in my grub.conf which would seem to
> >>>be calling for that. Yeah, I know, I gotta RTFM, but at the moment,
> >>>I'm overwhelmed with how badly this whole thing sucks.
>

A little bit <OT>, since I can't help you with the RH RPM-Hell or GUI-hell, 
but at this point in such a query I usually ask myself, why would anyone want 
to run anything but gentoo?

Once you've adjusted to installing almost everything from source and to the 
somewhat different system of boot scripts and package manager scripts, gentoo 
provides you with a very standard, reliable system.  When you install gnome, 
you get gnome.  When you install KDE, you get KDE.  Forget about whatever 
mishmash RH has decided to serve up.  When you go to look for another 
package, 99% of the time you can forget about rpmfind.net, since gentoo 
offers a source or binary package for nearly everything you might want.  If 
not, you can always install tarballs on your own or undertake the learning 
curve to setup the package as an ebuild (the gentoo install from source 
specs) and offer the package back to the user community.  You can even use 
RPM, if you prefer that headache.

Gentoo offers a variety of kernel packages - from the virgin kernel sources to 
well-patched sources for a variety of environments.

Gentoo provides a stable environment (the default) like Debian but not quite 
so ancient (kde 3.1, for example, is in stable), or you can choose to install 
bleeding edge (some are quite benign) packages as soon as they become 
available.

Unless there is a major incompatible change in the glibc/gcc/kernel 
environment, you never need to reinstall to be at current level.  The concept 
of needing to install a different RH release to get KDE 3.1 (etc.) is foreign 
to gentoo.  The only substantive complaint that I have heard about gentoo is 
the fact that it is not 100% LSB comliant.  Gentoo have chosen to package 
KDE/QT in a non-compliant fashion to allow for multiple concurrent versions.  
(LSB really has no correct answer for hosting multiple versions of large 
packages like these.)

As a side note, I installed and ran RH 7.3 for a couple of months just to 
familiarize myself with the RH offering, and I was quite pleased with the 
stability of the system.  Very soon, though, I descended into RPM-hell, since 
I couldn't find any RPMs tailored for RH for most of the add-on packages that 
I wanted, so I returned to the mother ship.

Enjoy,
-- 
Collins Richey - Denver Area
Athlon-XP gentoo 1.4_rc2 kde 3.1