[clue-tech] Re: CentOS -> Freedom

[mike havlicek]

--- Greg Knaddison <greg.knaddison at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/28/05, mike havlicek <mhavlicek1 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > To get the "real" spirit look at distros like
> Debian,
> > Gentoo, or the old standby ... Slackware. Or build
> it
> > yerself:) I admit I got tired of rebuilding it all
> > years ago. I think the last time I built close to
> > "everything" I used on my system was around 1995
> when
> > the ELF binary format was taken as the Linux
> standard.
> > For those that might have forgotten, remember the
> task
> > of bootstrapping GCC to ELF? IE using the a.out
> based
> > compiler to build the ELF compiler and all the .so
> > libs...
> 
> Mike, I don't doubt your years of Linux experience
> or your knowledge
> at building packages.
> 
> >
> > Anywho ... Last year I saw an interesting
> > program/documentary on the Sundance Channel. It
> was
> > called "Revolution OS". This program included
> > speech/interviews  from Richard Stallman, Linus
> > Torvalds, and Eric Raymond to mention a few. I
> highly
> > recommend viewing it... Oh yeah and the fellow
> from
> > Stanford that created Cygwin put some time in as
> well.
> >
> 
> Yes.  This movie was also played at a CLUE meeting a
> few months ago.
> 
> >
> > As I recall it also covers the IPO of the earlier
> > mentioned (not for profit citizens for the cause
> of
> > freedom:) RedHat If you don't think they are
> making
> > money off "their" software ... then why does a
> single
> > year license for RHEL cost over $1000? Why did I
> find
> > over 600 kernel patches provided by RedHat for
> their
> > enterprise customers? It could be that they only
> make
> > money through support. Is the kernel srpm for RHEL
> > freely available?
> 
> Exactly whom are you debating these points with? 
> Everyone concedes
> that RH makes money - they have to disclose just how
> much they make
> every quarter.  And everyone concedes that 1) RH
> provides a lot of
> Kernel pathes (for crying out loud, Alan Cox, for
> one, works there)
> and they aren't provided for "their enterprise
> customers" they are
> provided for "the whole freaking world".  That's how
> GPL works...
> 
> And here is where I do doubt you - your reading of
> emails and
> deductive powers: in addition to people explaining
> it conceptually,
> twice now people have sent you links to the entire
> grouping of RH
> SRPMS that include their kernel.  You can be
> Inspector Clueso and
> still figure that one out.
> 
> Speaking of, if CLUE needed a mascot I think Clueso
> would be a perfect one, eh?
> 
> 
> ~Greg
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For interest sake. I did call RedHat legal and they
are looking into CentOS and had never heard of it.


		
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