[clue-tech] Fedora 11 released

[David L. Willson]

Folks,

I didn't mean to start a discussion about which distribution is the Free-est, but I'd be happy to have that discussion over on -Talk, for anyone interested.  I was just trying to do a release announcement, and to give Fedora's position, for those that might be interested, but unaware of where Fedora fits in the Linux pantheon.

I am sorry if anyone was offended, or if it seemed like I was trying to eclipse your favorite distro.  I wasn't and am not.  I'm all about choice and the development of a strong, distribution-agnostic skillset that keeps our section of the software industry thriving.

David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
MCT, MCSE, Linux+
tel://720.333.LANS

----- "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Check out Debian for an absolutely free distribution. It has more
> distributions based on it than any other core compilation, IIRC. It
> has the advantage that it doesn't inhiibit the installation of
> non-free software if the user so chooses.
> 
> I wonder wat gNewSense is up to if instructions don't exist to include
> non-free software.
> 
> ========Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Peter Kuykendall <peterkuykendall at gmail.com>
> To: 990287.25071245592975910.JavaMail.root at zimbra.thegeek.nu; CLUE
> tech <clue-tech at cluedenver.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:45:35 PM
> Subject: [clue-tech] Fedora 11 released
> 
> > Fedora is among the purest, the most committed to Freedom of all the
> popular distributions.
> 
> I'm very glad to see this; thanks for posting it. I was amazed to find
> out that the kernel is chock full of nonfree code, in direct violation
> of the GPL, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in fixing
> this upstream. So I downloaded a Gnewsense VM
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnewsense) and have been pretty
> impressed. Of course, the VM works well despite being crippled by lack
> of nonfree wireless, etc. because it depends on those services being
> available in the host, which in my case is a very nonfree corporate XP
> laptop. But it's refreshing to see that there are real efforts to
> create truly free distros, even to the point of excising nonfree code
> from the kernel. And it is possible to buy wireless cards and dongles
> that can be driven by free code.
> 
> >From Wikipedia:
> 
> " gNewSense is a GNU/Linux operating system that uses free software .
> [ 2 ] gNewSense is based on Ubuntu . [ 2 ] It tries to maintain the
> user-friendliness of Ubuntu but with the non-free software and binary
> blobs removed. The Free Software Foundation considers gNewSense to be
> a free operating system. [ 3 ]
> 
> gNewSense takes a strict stance against non-free software. For
> example, any documentation that gives instructions on installing
> non-free software is excluded. [ 4 ]
> 
> The project was launched by Brian Brazil and Paul O'Malley in 2006. In
> October 2006, after the 0.85 release, [ 5 ] it was given assistance by
> the Free Software Foundation . [ 6 ] "
> 
> - Pete 
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