[clue] Impressions on 11.04?

[Chris Ernst]

I can't tell if you're trolling or just thick headed.  So this will be
my last post on the topic.

Linus uses Fedora and RMS uses Ututo.  That said... who cares what they
use?  They use what they use because it works for them.   I use what I
use because it works for me.  You use what you use because it works for
you.  That's the beauty... you have choices.  They all use the same
kernel.  The differences are in userspace and you can change anything
you want.

Linux is not a shell.  It is an OS kernel.  A shell is just userspaace
software.  It has no dependencies on the underlying OS.

Please stop making s**t up.

Toodles!

	- Chris


On 04/30/2011 08:13 AM, Torren Beitler wrote:
> Linus runs his own distro when I seen him last year, and Richard uses
> his own I believe, only met him once though. Ubuntu=/=debian. I was
> talking about Ubuntu being locked down, not debian. Still locked down,
> linux is just a shell pretty much.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com
> <mailto:beandaemon at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     OK!  Granted, the notion that things are locked down seemed a little
>     counter intuitive.  To my mind, the most you could really accuse
>     canonical of is heavy handed marketing.  If it's truly locked down,
>     where are all the spins coming from? How many distros are ubuntu
>     runoffs?  Besides, I try to follow listen to FOSS news to some
>     degree, and I'm fairly confident that if anyone ever knocked on
>     canonical's door, asked for the source code, and was told no,
>     there'd be allegations of them violating GPL on slashdot in less
>     then an hour.
> 
> 
>     On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:30 AM, CP Constantine <conrad at 1211.net
>     <mailto:conrad at 1211.net>> wrote:
> 
>         On 4/30/2011 2:17 AM, Mike Bean wrote:
>         > I'd be curious to hear more about that if perhaps we could
>         take the
>         > discussion of the grid.  (It isn't my intention to sidetrack
>         the thread,
>         > I just have a hard time imagining that distro-slamming could
>         be a huge
>         > problem with people applying for linux jobs, I'd be curious to
>         hear
>         > about it.)
> 
>         not much to talk about really, linux is just a kernel, the rest is
>         userspace, and nothing is written in stone. If you don't understand
>         that, you likely don't understand the underlying mechanics of LD.so
>         loading, init sequences, etc, that you're gonna lack proper linux
>         troubleshooting skills.
> 
>         Imagine if a windows admin told you "yeah, I can't work on
>         systems that
>         have office installed! screws up too much stuff!"
> 
>         Linux is Linux is Linux. even accepted standards such as /usr, /etc,
>         /lib are purely there because people agree upon them. you could
>         build
>         (from source) a linux system that used your own completely bizarre
>         filesystem structure, and... it would work.
> 
>         So, why do I think it's a negative mark? because good sysadmins
>         solve
>         problems, they don't introduce artificial ones.
> 
>         (and I personally dislike RedHat-derivatives default setup a lot, it
>         doesn't stop me making anything I need to work on them, work. I got
>         started with linux kernel 0.97.. at this point, there really
>         isn't much
>         difference between any distro for me... remember the old Unix
>         maxim -
>         "Everything is a file" - once you accept that, the rest is easy).
> 
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