[clue] Gnome 3

[Mike Bean]

No doubt, my main thinking though, is paradigm shifts are never easy.  It
took me YEARS to get used to linux, I must've unofficially "tried" it at
least 5 or 6 times before I got good with it.  Emacs was even crazier.  That
took a dedicated effort of will to learn.  I'm curious if Unity/Gnome3 fit
into the same category or if it's basically a question of the costs
exceeding the benefits.

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:32 AM, <dennisjperkins at comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm going to keep playing with it for now.  Maybe I'll change shells
> later.  But it's not a great leap forward.  More like two steps back.  Maybe
> this is Gnome's equivalent of second system syndrome.
>
>
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> From: "Mike Bean" <beandaemon at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 6:42:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [clue] Gnome 3
>
> I'm really curious about Gnome shell.  Looking forward to trying it, but I
> haven't figured out how to get it loaded and working on any of my boxes
> yet.  Short of loading the fedora beta, which I had a fair amount of trouble
> getting to work.  In advance of Ubuntu's adoption of Unity, I deserted them
> and am running Linux Mint, but seeing as how mint by and large uses the same
> repos as Ubuntu, I'm expecting it will be a while before I get a chance to
> try it.
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Dennis J Perkins <
> dennisjperkins at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>  Arch Linux has switched to Gnome 2, so I have it on my laptop now.  It
>> uses Gnome Shell instead of Ubuntu's Unity.  My initial impression is that
>> it is merely change for the sake of change instead of an actual
>> improvement.  Many people are going to hate it as passionately as others
>> hate KDE 4.
>>
>> I don't see any way to put icons or documents on the desktop.  I sometimes
>> like to put working documents on the desktop and I see no reason why someone
>> should decide that I should not be able to do that.
>>
>> The old menus are gone.  The newer method takes more work.  I'm probably
>> going to rely more on Cairo Dock.
>>
>> The old applets are gone.  The new ones take up more room and there are a
>> few bugs, such as not showing up in the same position after rebooting, even
>> when they are supposed to be locked to one position.
>>
>> Multiple desktops are gone.  At least, I haven't found out how to make it
>> work.
>>
>> It also wants to use an accelerated graphics card or Gnome Shell will not
>> run.  The new Metacity window manager runs instead and its new look is very
>> similar to Gnome Shell but doesn't have the same capabilities.  My laptop
>> has accelerated graphics but it wasn't turned on and I had to find out how
>> to turn it on.
>>
>> I can't change the screensaver.  Before I could run xscreensaver or Gnome
>> Screensaver.  The only thing I can change is how long before it kicks in.
>>
>> Hmm.  I haven't found anything yet that I consider an improvement.
>>
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