[clue] Gnome 3

[Will]

What does the windowing system have to do with the Kernel loading the
correct driver for your wireless card?

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Charles W Downing <
chuckdowning at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  I have a System76 Pangolin laptop, which I bought in 2008.  I have
> downloaded and burned to memory sticks both openSUSE and Fedora versions of
> Gnome3.  From a memory stick, both boot up and seem to work "as designed".
> There are some good things and some bad things about the live versions.
>
> 1.  The Fedora version can change timezones, but it may have changed the
> internal clock.  The openSUSE version can also change the timezone, but,
> coming second, it didn't find the correct current time.
>
> 2.  Both recognize the built-in System76 quirks.
>
> 3. I agree that the interface will take some getting used to, but that's
> probably to be expected.
>
> Now, for a disappointment.  I also have a System76 Pangolin laptop, which I
> just bought this year.  It is last year's model, since I got it on
> "close-out".   I have rejected Gnome3 out-of-hand for this machine because
> neither version recognizes the wireless interface.  I have installed both
> Linux Mint 10 and Ubuntu 11.04 on this box and they both use the wireless
> system from the "git-go".  They do require my manual intervention to fire it
> up, but Gnome3 doesn't even realise that the interface is there.  I could
> find no (easy) way to even hunt for this hardware in the menus.
>
> Ah well, back to finding things on the old box.
>
>
> On 05/01/2011 10:35 PM, Dennis J Perkins wrote:
>
> Arch Linux has switched to Gnome 2, so I have it on my laptop now.  It uses
> Gnome Shell instead of Ubuntu's Unity.  My initial impression is that it is
> merely change for the sake of change instead of an actual improvement.  Many
> people are going to hate it as passionately as others hate KDE 4.
>
> I don't see any way to put icons or documents on the desktop.  I sometimes
> like to put working documents on the desktop and I see no reason why someone
> should decide that I should not be able to do that.
>
> The old menus are gone.  The newer method takes more work.  I'm probably
> going to rely more on Cairo Dock.
>
> The old applets are gone.  The new ones take up more room and there are a
> few bugs, such as not showing up in the same position after rebooting, even
> when they are supposed to be locked to one position.
>
> Multiple desktops are gone.  At least, I haven't found out how to make it
> work.
>
> It also wants to use an accelerated graphics card or Gnome Shell will not
> run.  The new Metacity window manager runs instead and its new look is very
> similar to Gnome Shell but doesn't have the same capabilities.  My laptop
> has accelerated graphics but it wasn't turned on and I had to find out how
> to turn it on.
>
> I can't change the screensaver.  Before I could run xscreensaver or Gnome
> Screensaver.  The only thing I can change is how long before it kicks in.
>
> Hmm.  I haven't found anything yet that I consider an improvement.
>
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