[clue] MS visual basic

[Richard Knechtel]

I have used Visual Studio 5.0/6.0 EE and helped originally beta test Visual
Studio .Net (for Visual Basic .Net). I did just a bit of Visual Basic and
ASP development in my former life.  Visual Studio is fine but it's for
Windows period. It is NOT for cross platform development IMHO. If you want
to be able to program for Linux and Windows - pick something OTHER than VS.
Having used Eclipse from back when it was originally Visual Age for Java (I
still have my original 1.0/2.0 CD's) Eclipse has come a LOONG way. VAJ was
an utter piece of garbage IMHO. After IBM open sourced it it became MUCH
better. Eclipse isn't really that hard to learn.But if your dead set on
doing VS development your better off doing it on Windows not on Linux. VS
has a  LOT of "ties" into Windows and I think you will find you will have
issues trying to use it on Linux using Wine. I have used Wine to run Windows
applications some successfully some not so.

If your serious about getting into developing on Linux use an IDE that is
"Linux friendly". You also have to decide what language you are going to
start with. If your a beginner I would suggest don't jump right into an IDE.
my suggestion is you should learn how to write code and use the command line
tools (like the compiler, linker, debugger) first - THEN go to an IDE. I
started me life as a developer out learning BASIC on a Commodore 64, then
moved into hacking a little assembly on it. Then I moved onto 'C' on the
Commodore Amiga. I used the Lattice/SAS 'C' tool set - I used a text editor
to white my code in. It was a GREAT learning experience to learn to use a C
compiler, linker, debugger and to write my own make files and such. I didn't
move onto using an IDE until I was well into my "professional" career. IDE's
are a nice thing - they are good for increased productivity as they take a
lot of the "monotony" out of some of the developers tasks.

Don't feel overwhelmed by learning to program. You just have to decide on
what language to start with. You also should have an idea of what kind of
things you want to program - applications, games etc.. Sometimes that can
give you a clue as to what language you should start with.

I'm sure there are plenty of us out here who are developers that can give
you some tricks and tips to help you along.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Louis Miller <veganguy at canadaseek.com>wrote:

>
> I watched the first Eclipse tutorial, last night. It appeared to be geared
> for someone who was familiar with IDEs in Windows, and needed to understand
> how to use Eclipse. Was it for teaching someone who didn't know how to
> program how to program? I think the Visual Studio Express would be easier
> for teaching a beginner to program, though I haven't done much with it.
> Maybe, I'm just not too bright. Or maybe, what is more likely, is that in
> the context of the Linux community the average intelligence is higher than
> the average for the general public and in this context, I appear stupider
> than out among the general public.
>
> Louis
>
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