[clue] MS visual basic

[Charles W Downing]

Amen, brother "mad dog".

On 05/11/2011 08:22 AM, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote:
> Louis,
>
>> If your serious about getting into developing on Linux use an IDE that is
>> "Linux friendly". You also have to decide what language you are going to
>> start with. If your a beginner I would suggest don't jump right into an IDE.
>> my suggestion is you should learn how to write code and use the command line
>> tools (like the compiler, linker, debugger) first - THEN go to an IDE. I
>> started me life as a developer out learning BASIC on a Commodore 64, then
>> moved into hacking a little assembly on it. Then I moved onto 'C' on the
>> Commodore Amiga. I used the Lattice/SAS 'C' tool set - I used a text editor
>> to white my code in. It was a GREAT learning experience to learn to use a C
>> compiler, linker, debugger and to write my own make files and such. I didn't
>> move onto using an IDE until I was well into my "professional" career. IDE's
>> are a nice thing - they are good for increased productivity as they take a
>> lot of the "monotony" out of some of the developers tasks.
>>
>> Don't feel overwhelmed by learning to program. You just have to decide on
>> what language to start with. You also should have an idea of what kind of
>> things you want to program - applications, games etc.. Sometimes that can
>> give you a clue as to what language you should start with.
>>
> I have been in computers for over forty years, and although I don't
> write much code anymore, I have written my fair share.
>
> I will echo Richard Knechtel's advice to you with one caveat, and that
> is to start with an interpretive language like Python, which allows you
> to concentrate on programming and programming style and not get as tied
> up with libraries, compilations, make files, etc. at this early stage.
>
> If you are really "learning to program" that you go to your favorite
> bookstore that has a good computer science section and look through some
> books on "beginning Python programming" that do a step-by-step
> introduction, complete with examples that start off simple and get more
> complex.  Choose a book at your level.
>
> Also look for books on programming "style", ways of structuring your
> code for readability, maintainability, etc.  And books on User Interface
> Design and database usage, to keep you from re-inventing the wheel.
>
> As a *second* language move on to the language "C" and Richard's
> suggestions.  "C" will allow you to go as low and as high as you want,
> to "hang yourself as high as you wish"....but by that time you may have
> learned enough to avoid really bad habits.
>
> And yes, there is a "PyDEV" plug-in for Eclipse that allows you to use
> Eclipse as an IDE for Python, when you are ready.
>
> Finally, welcome to the world of life-long learning.
>
> md
>
>
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Chuck Downing
Highlands Ranch, Colorado USA