[clue] Drupal and SSL.

Will will.sterling at gmail.com
Wed May 25 10:49:26 MDT 2011


Google's argument was that they were able to make use of SSL with low impact
due to a patch they made to openSSL.  I don't see how that has
any consequence to anyone outside of Google unless the patch
was committed back upstream and available to all.  Besides the fact that the
server can not even stay up a few hours running Drupla over HTTP let alone
adding in cryptography.

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Lorin Ricker <Lorin at rickernet.us> wrote:

> I'm no expert on web servers, but I do have non-trivial experience with
> scaling systems -- and esp. in light of the Google pro-SSL argument
> below, in light of comparing CLUE's website (a few dozen pages so far,
> tops?  Perhaps a few 10's of regular users, a few dozen hits/daily?) to
> that of the various Google services (orders of magnitude larger in
> nearly every dimension), I'd say that taking the "Just Make All Drupal
> Pages SSL" is a no-brainer... unless of course CLUE website is on an
> ancient 286 with a megabyte of RAM backed by floppy disks! ;-)
>
> Just my 2¢ worth, respectfully...
> best regards,
>   -- Lorin
>
> On 05/21/2011 03:41 PM, Will wrote:
> > So, um did Google submit this OpenSSL patch back up stream?  I believe
> > OpenSSL uses a BSD license.
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:40 PM, David L. Anselmi <anselmi at anselmi.us
> > <mailto:anselmi at anselmi.us>> wrote:
> >
> >     Yaverot wrote:
> >      > Since his argument is mostly economic (taxing servers), I need to
> >     point out the counter argument:
> >      > http://techie-buzz.com/tech-news/google-switch-ssl-cost.html
> >
> >     "OpenSSL tends to allocate about 50KB of memory for each connection.
> >     We have patched OpenSSL to
> >     reduce this to about 5KB."
> >
> >     "SSL has been optimized at its best at Google."
> >
> >     "These facts prove that SSL is not as resource intensive as it is
> >     blamed to be."
> >
> >     I'm sold!  Sign us up!
> >
> >     Dave
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