[clue] [Politics] Internet Censorship

[Mike Bean]

Trolls can be entertaining in a daytime court-tv sort of way, and besides,
I don't mind that Torren has some unusual opinions about linux;  He isn't
ENTIRELY wrong in a larger macro sense.  Violence is very much a part of
human history - always has been. However, that doesn't make it any less
creepy and it certainly doesn't mean that's the way it should be, just that
it's the way it WAS.  Do you suppose that Occupy would be as much in the
news as it has been if the police hadn't cracked down?  If it wasn't in the
news, would people still be talking about it?   If people weren't talking
about it, would the democrats still be trying to form their 2012 strategy
around it?  (Citing it as evidence that public opinion has shifted against
conservatives and the tea-party?)

Look at egypt for example.  That was hailed as a largely peaceful example
of "regime change".   Fast forward 12 months, and quell surpris'!   They're
RIGHT BACK in tharir square again!

The only point I'm trying to make is that I don't think excluding violence
from the discussion based on the morality of it is practical. However, that
doesn't make the idea of town hall meetings in Torren's district any less
...spooky. If you have to go, get a place by/near the door.

Bean

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:31 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu>wrote:

> I believe this conversation is OK as long as the subject line contains
> [Politics] and Torren doesn't actually shoot anyone I like (Examples: Ron
> Paul, Dave Anselmi, Will Sterling, Kevin Kempter, Jeff Haemer, Doug
> Corwine, and maddog).
>
> Torren is a well-known troll, and if folks want to let the gimp out and
> play with him, it's no skin off my nose.
>
> I'm happy to help anyone that is bummed out by the conversation to create
> a mail-rule that will non-violently and silently delete Torren from their
> Inbox.
>
> David L. Willson
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>
> Please take this discussion some where else.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Torren Beitler <torren.beitler at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> What has non-violence ever done? Gandhi is hated by most Indians as he
>> sold out to the British. Name one thing non-violence has ever done.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:20 AM, adam bultman <adamb at glaven.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Curse you, Poe's law!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/2011 06:27 PM, Torren Beitler wrote:
>>> > You think occupy and signing shit will help? The only�solution�is
>>> > violence.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:55 PM, adam bultman <adamb at glaven.org
>>> > <mailto:adamb at glaven.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     You're right!
>>> >
>>> >     I totally signed up our local representatives for 2 year
>>> subscriptions
>>> >     and lifetime NRA memberships.
>>> >
>>> >     I can't wait to see the looks on their faces! They'll be so
>>> pleasantly
>>> >     surprised, they'll be putty in my hands.
>>> >
>>> >     On 11/28/2011 04:08 PM, Torren Beitler wrote:
>>> >     > Nothing will ever change what they want to do. Want to stop it?
>>> >     Resist
>>> >     > with guns and ammo.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM, YES NOPE9 <yes at nope9.com
>>> >     <mailto:yes at nope9.com>
>>> >     > <mailto:yes at nope9.com <mailto:yes at nope9.com>>> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     > � � If you are interested in opposing internet censorship
>>> >     > � � look at this URL
>>> >     > � � http://stopcensorship.org/
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