[clue] [ADMIN] More Odds and end's 2012m01d23

Tue Jan 24 10:02:21 MST 2012

Dan, (and interested others) 

I won't lead this one. I have a class going on, some pretty big plans for educational efforts in 2012, and I'm trying to restore freedom in America, so my plate is just too full to lead another project. 

If someone will take the flag and charge, I will follow, I will show up, smile, and help carry things. 

David L. Willson 
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast 
RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP 
tel://720.333.LANS 
Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. 

----- Original Message -----

> David, I always find your advice measured and relevant. This is no
> exception here. Gus seems to have a wide array of interests so maybe
> you are right, this effort is worthy of a new community group. And
> as a community we can share information with all the other groups
> you have mentioned.

> Now of course there is no reason why the website was to stick at
> kulinski.net , we can easily register a new domain name and move it
> there. I'll leave it to others to come up with a flashy available
> name.

> So definitely keep me in the loop. If you would like to meet with me,
> I suggest Google+ Hangouts. They tend to work well for the most
> part. If a face to face is required I will schedule that when
> requested.

> Dan Kulinski

> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, David L. Willson <
> DLWillson at thegeek.nu > wrote:

> > Of course it is easier to do nothing. But it is unproductive to
> > point
> > out a problem without proposing a solution.
> 

> > How about if you, Gus, and a few others start a LUG or free
> > software
> > club of your own?
> 

> > You could still invite CLUE folks and BLUG folks and Den Hac folks
> > and CoLoCo folks and Meeter Uppers to your events, and you could
> > have whatever sort of website you like.
> 

> > This isn't a competition. But if you did a good job, it could be...
> > >:-)
> 

> > David L. Willson
> 
> > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> 
> > RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP
> 
> > tel://720.333.LANS
> 
> > Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux.
> 

> > ----- Chris Fedde < chris at fedde.us > wrote:
> 
> > > I find that it is easier to not be involved. The previous round
> > > of
> 
> > > site changes, contributions and preparations in good faith that
> > > were
> 
> > > killed in the 11th hour by fiat convinced me that this
> > > organization
> 
> > > was not worth my time.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Good luck and god speed.
> 
> > > chris
> 
> > >
> 
> > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM, YES NOPE9 < yes at nope9.com >
> > > wrote:
> 
> > > > My comments on are based on information I have received. My
> > > > apologies if I
> 
> > > > have misunderstood what is going on.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > #1 I believe Dennis Perkins says he has been paying $50 every
> > > > three months
> 
> > > > for ISP services. Dennis is free to do that... I think it is
> > > > not
> > > > a good
> 
> > > > idea. The CLUE treasury has money. Dennis could have been
> > > > tapping
> > > > that
> 
> > > > money. I think CLUE should be a club that shares information.
> > > > Everyone (
> 
> > > > including non-members ) should be able to easily find out what
> > > > CLUE is up to
> 
> > > > , what is being spent, who is excited about what.... What CLUE
> > > > has now for
> 
> > > > a website is pretty off-putting for contributors and readers.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > #2 I am very excited about what Dan Kuluinski has proposed.
> 
> > > > drupal.kulinski.net I would like to form a group that wants to
> > > > work on
> 
> > > > adding lots of features to the CLUE website. This can be an
> > > > alternative
> 
> > > > site that links to the current lame site. They can co-exist. We
> > > > had such a
> 
> > > > website dev group before and from my perspective certain people
> > > > restricted
> 
> > > > the group to the extent it died. So I propose that interested
> > > > parties
> 
> > > > figure out how to meet and support Dan K. Don't bother to join
> > > > in
> > > > if what
> 
> > > > you want to do is stick with what CLUE has. We can keep the old
> > > > flooba
> 
> > > > intact and also have some new stuff.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > #3 I don't think CLUE needs a president. I think it needs
> > > > someone
> > > > to hold
> 
> > > > the club money. Any member should be able to give themselves a
> > > > title and
> 
> > > > arrange for classes , seminars , presentations, installfests,
> > > > hack-fests ,
> 
> > > > inventor-fests, etc. Anything they want. CLUE can have a
> > > > projector (
> 
> > > > wherever that is ) , experimenter boards like RaspberryPi /
> > > > Guruplug / ,
> 
> > > > inventor tools, ..... whatever. The website should allow any
> > > > member to
> 
> > > > contribute information , schedule a meeting, add features to
> > > > the
> > > > club. If
> 
> > > > someone wants to try to make money off CLUE... that is okay
> > > > with
> > > > me... I
> 
> > > > won't invest energy in that.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > #4 I will be looking for a way for CLUE to accept large
> > > > donations
> > > > that can
> 
> > > > be written off. Perhaps some kind of alliance with a 501C3
> > > > organization.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > To summarize.... I want a group that is open-ended, dedicated
> > > > to
> > > > fun ,
> 
> > > > dedicated to openness / FLOSS / sharing with as few rules and
> > > > rulers as
> 
> > > > possible. I am a big fan of 99IPPP ( google ) . What is the
> > > > point
> > > > in being
> 
> > > > alive if you don't dent the universe ?
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > There is certainly more that can be said about this. I invite
> > > > comments.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > Gus S. Calabrese 99guspuppet
> 
> > > > CLUE treasurer Colorado Linux Users & Enthusiasts
> 
> > > >
> 
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