[clue] 17" Linux-based laptop

[David L. Willson]

I'm pretty sure Novell has nothing to do with SUSE. See Crawford's thread. 

I think the rest of your message means to recommend the Thinkpad series by Lenovo because they have a high commitment to open-ness and compatibility. Is that right? 

If so, let me add a bit: I'm not OK with using a vendor that doesn't sell Linux-based gear to end users, too. Let's say my bosses have a thing for Dell, or HP, or IBM, or whatever. Anyway, for whatever reason, my company won't buy the laptop, so now I have to buy it out of my own pocket. Is Lenovo still your go-to brand? 

-- 
David L. Willson 
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast 
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu 
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) 

This is a good time for a r3VOLution. 

----- Original Message -----

> Novell is suse. As far as getting it preinstalled, I'm sure that IBM/
> Lenovo hp or any other major oem will do that for you if you have
> the proper service contract with them, so you can go one of two ways
> here, pay up for enterprise workstations or stay with os certified
> models.

> I think you're sidestepping a major point here though. The only
> guarantee is standards conformity and openness, specifically brands
> that refuse to use close sourced drivers and such, Lenovo, the
> thinkpads in my opinion are almost always a good choice.

> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012, David L. Willson wrote:

> > I have used SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop), and I liked it
> > fine. I don't think it's backed by Novell any more, though.
> 

> > Do you know a reputable vendor that sells big, powerful laptops
> > with
> > SLED pre-installed?
> 

> > And to your final point, I find brand loyalism much, MUCH less
> > threatening in the land of Free (as in GPL) software, than in the
> > land of free (as in beer and BSD) software or worst of all, in the
> > land of proprietary software. I don't care if people are just crazy
> > about Ubuntu or Red Hat or SUSE. I say God bless 'em and God speed.
> > I do NOT feel the same way about people that are crazy about
> > Windows, OSX, Oracle, Netezza, and MapR. I have one simple reason:
> > I
> > hate vendor lock-in, and I've learned to recognize cages and
> > chains.
> 

> > --
> 
> > David L. Willson
> 
> > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> 
> > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
> 
> > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
> 

> > This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
> 

> > > You should take a look at something that's backed by Novell and
> > > suse
> > > if you're serious about brand loyalty. Sled is prolly the only
> > > way
> > > forward with capitalism and Linux.
> > 
> 

> > > There's an excellent discussion here about the trials of
> > > universal
> > > compatibility and conversely brand loyalty. Thoughts?
> > 
> 

> > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012, David L. Willson wrote:
> > 
> 

> > > > Hardware vendors and softwarethe vendors are in business to
> > > > make
> > > > great products AND make a living. So, when you're spending, be
> > > > aware
> > > > that they're watching.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > Id no longer makes products for Linux, because a whole bunch of
> > > > people bought the Windows version of DOOM3 and downloaded the
> > > > Linux
> > > > binary for free, thereby obscuring their desire for a great
> > > > game
> > > > on
> > > > Linux. Id can no longer justify the effort of creating the
> > > > Linux
> > > > port.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > Fortunately, Valve is making their first foray into Linux-land,
> > > > and
> > > > hopefully, we'll have gotten smarter, enough to actually be
> > > > careful
> > > > about how our "dollar-votes" get registered.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > So, I will continue to buy every Humble Bundle, attribute my
> > > > purchase
> > > > to Linux, and pay more than the average when I do. And I'll buy
> > > > L4D2
> > > > on Steam on Linux, the day it gets released.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > And, I will only buy Linux-based computers from now on, rather
> > > > than
> > > > OSX or Windows-based, so that I can be sure all my hardware
> > > > will
> > > > "just work", and my vendor will know that I want Linux.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > All that to say this... I want to source a Linux workstation
> > > > from
> > > > a
> > > > reputable vendor, so I can request it at work: Why is this so
> > > > damned
> > > > hard?
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > System 76 - Bonobo - gone
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Zareason - Verix - gone
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Dell - M6700 - Rumor appears to be unfounded
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > --
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > David L. Willson
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
> > > 
> > 
> 

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